Paula Gerber, a professor of law at Monash University in Melbourne, rejoices that “Roxanne Tickle” won his case.

Roxanne Tickle’s win in the Federal Court is a historic victory for transgender women

The fact that it’s historic disaster for women doesn’t seem to trouble her at all.

It’s been a case closely watched by the transgender community and legal minds alike. Today in the Federal Court of Australia, a judge ruled in favour of trans woman Roxanne Tickle in her anti-discrimination case against a social media app.

I just have to say, minds that have a taste for precision in language know better than to say a community and legal minds are watching something. Minds can’t watch things; that’s the … Read the rest

Rivkah Brown is truly horrible. Not just wrong, thick, delusional, sloppy in her thinking, but horrible.

I didn’t see all of her claims about Tickle yesterday so I failed to grasp quite how horrible she is.

Second, Tickle makes clear above that the app CEO Sall Grover's persistent misgendering made her suicidal. Knowing this, Bettiza allows Grover to repeat her claim that Tickle is a man. This is a flagrant dereliction of journalistic standards and ethics. pic.twitter.com/E6LWtj1wNr

— Rivkah Brown (@rivkahbrown) August 23, 2024

This is why journalists have (or at least ought to) ethical practices when covering vulnerable individuals – and few people are more vulnerable than those whose gender identity is publicly speculated about. Bettiza has a

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Originally a comment by Artymorty on Like eating Pringles.

And why should we expect otherwise? Rationalizing consequences away is normal. After all, in the absence of real consequences, you’re free to play the status game, and you really want to play that game. There is status and prestige to be gained (within your tribe) by supporting your team. The more zealous your support, the more status you earn, which necessarily means that you earn less by having any reservations or criticisms. People have to be scared out of playing the status game, because only when repressing a concern obviously costs more status than voicing it do you allow yourself to even become conscious that you have any concerns in

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This is silly.

For the most part, Ms Harris has shied away from describing in detail what her presidency would look like.

There’s talk of unity and a way beyond America’s divisive partisanship; a focus on strengthening the economy and reducing consumer prices; and a heavy emphasis on reproductive rights and abortion – an area of particular strength for Democrats.

But it is vague. And this vagueness may suit the Harris campaign just fine.

“Vague,” the BBC says. Have they heard of the other guy? Do they think he’s not-vague?

In other words, the vice-president’s policy vagueness has allowed her to cast as broad an appeal as possible in what is shaping up to be an election where every

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Why not just fold women up into smaller and smaller bundles until you can’t see them anymore? Wouldn’t that be the simplest way?

Speaking forbidden

Women in Afghanistan have been banned from speaking in public under draconian laws announced by the Taliban.

The rules, which also stop women from showing their uncovered faces in public, were approved by Hibatullah Akhundzada, the country’s supreme leader, and represent some of the strictest measures imposed on women since the Taliban regained power in 2021.

Clearly women are a kind of poison that must be rigorously controlled – like plutonium for instance. The tiniest bit of exposure can lead to a miserable death.

A woman’s voice is deemed intimate and so should not be

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Adult people with adult jobs such as “journalist” now believe (or at least say) that law creates reality.

This reporting from the BBC's gender correspondent is both incorrect and, frankly, abusive.

First, Bettiza claims that Roxanne Tickle sued because she "identifies as a woman". No: she did so because she *is* a woman by law, something the Australian court has now confirmed. https://t.co/zrnxxnIgqR pic.twitter.com/PT5YQ8EMU0

— Rivkah Brown (@rivkahbrown) August 23, 2024

The sheer stupidity is breathtaking. (I have a feeling I’ve typed that sentence about 80 million times by now.)

There’s no such thing as being something “by law” except when the something is a matter of law.

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Wording tweaks.

.@Amnesty claims the Taliban oppress people who identify as girls, as if a girl or woman could avoid oppression simply by choosing to identify as a man. The Taliban may be barbaric superstitious savages, but they have a better grasp of biology than woke Western elites. pic.twitter.com/IwIJtRpv1J

— Gurwinder (@G_S_Bhogal) August 24, 2024

To be fair in this case I don’t think Amnesty is claiming that.

It’s a long article and it talks about women and girls throughout.

The original wording was “for the ‘crime’ of being born as a girl” and I think they must have gotten complaints about “born as” and so tweaked it. Their original point was the old familiar one that being born … Read the rest

R U serious?

https://twitter.com/blablafishcakes/status/1827265914279960609

A man can shop in the women’s section of the store, take hormones to grow [bigger] breasts, go by a female name, have vaginoplasty and labiaplasty, and you STILL do not think that man is a woman?

Duh, no, of course I don’t, any more than I would if he put on a long curly blonde wig or flapped his hands flirtatiously or talked in a high squeaky voice.

By the same token I wouldn’t think he was a dog if he started crawling around the floor, barked, chased a ball, ate a can of dog food, and chewed the newspaper.… Read the rest

Women are The Enemy chapter 40 billion.

White women! Do not protest if someone hurts you! Shut your fucking trap! (From an 8th grade Ontario classroom, via @ChanLPfa) pic.twitter.com/eTxBIqeK0V

— Wesley Yang (@wesyang) August 23, 2024

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Originally a comment by Nullius in Verba on There’s no undoing any of this.

So much of Genderism succeeds because its supporters have no skin in the game, which lets them play a different game entirely. They face none of the consequences (as far as they can see, at least) of the policies they support, but their support earns them social credit. It’s in their interest to be blind to consequences that don’t affect them and to those that affect them less than the status they might gain. Setting men aside, handmaidens to the trans movement do not perceive significant consequences to themselves, so they will not see significant consequences to other women, because that sight would lose them … Read the rest

Originally a comment by Artymorty on There she is now.

There’s not going to be any recovery from this, for groups like Amnesty to have gotten basic women’s rights this wrong. If the people in charge of these groups were ever reasonable, if they were perhaps too afraid at first to challenge the young zealots in their staff, and somehow unable fully grasp the magnitude of what they were conceding, it’s too late to turn back now — the lunatics have well and truly taken over. They’re so deep in it, there’s no undoing any of this. Amnesty International is a massive NGO, and I genuinely don’t think their reputation can recover. How are they ever going to walk … Read the rest

Amnesty International proudly displays its contempt for women.

Roxanne Tickle has won her discrimination case against the social media app 'Giggle for Girls', which blocked her from joining on the basis of being male. This is a step forward in ensuring transgender women are not discriminated against on the basis of their gender identity. pic.twitter.com/552Qq6r2KJ

— Amnesty International (@amnesty) August 23, 2024

Note the meaningless random photo, clearly meant to trick the uninformed into thinking that is “Roxanne” Tickle.

Actual Mr Tickle:

They have NO shame.

Despicable zealot fucks.

— Billy Bragg (@Serena_Partrick) August 23, 2024

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Daisy Dumas, a reporter for Guardian Australia based in Sydney, trots out all the familiar lies and some new ones:

On Friday morning, the federal court justice Robert Bromwich said the respondents had considered “sex” to mean an unchangeable sex of a person at birth.

“These arguments failed because the view propounded by the respondents conflicted with a long history of cases decided by courts going back over 30 years. Those … cases established that on its ordinary meaning sex is changeable,” he said.

This shit is so maddening. Of course we consider “sex” to mean an unchangeable sex of a person at birth. The sex of a person=the unchangeable sex of a person at birth. There is no other kind… Read the rest

Diddums.

‘Stolen years of my life’: Roxanne Tickle speaks after landmark ‘what is a woman’ case win

Landmark demolition of women’s rights you mean. It’s a win for piggy men who want to take what women have, and a loss for women who want to keep what women have.

Roxanne Tickle is relieved her legal case sparked by a ban from a female-only app is over, saying it has “stolen the last three years” of her life.

Liar liar liar liar. He’s the one who stole years. He didn’t have to try to force himself on a bunch of women.

Speaking outside the Federal Court in Sydney following the decision on Friday, Tickle said she was generally able to be

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From Jo Bartosch’s piece in Spiked! on the Tickle v Giggle ruling:

The judge went on to explain that although the science of sex difference was not in dispute, ‘the issues in this case involve wider issues than biology’. He considered and then dismissed expert opinion from evolutionary biologist Colin Wright, author and philosopher Kathleen Stock, and campaigner Helen Joyce. Remarkably, he declared Joyce, author of a best-selling book on transgenderism, as having ‘no recognised expertise in any of the areas in which she expresses an opinion’.

Well, if all the maniacs decide as one that they’re not going to listen to a single thing a woman says because they take it for granted that women are all worthless … Read the rest

Joan Smith on the ruling:

Women no longer exist as a separate category in Australia. Sex is “changeable”, according to the judge who has just ruled in a case that effectively destroys single-sex spaces and services for Australian women. It’s a devastating blow for female rights in the country, which is experiencing an “epidemic” of violence against women according to Prime Minister Anthony Albanese.

If sex is changeable, tell us who the men are who have changed into women and gone on to get pregnant and give birth. Name one.

The implications of the judgment, while not directly about sexual and domestic violence, are far-reaching. There has never been a more urgent case for single-sex services in Australia, yet

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Pig of a man who demolished women’s right to women’s spaces complains about how bad this has been for him him him him him him him.

https://twitter.com/celinevmachine_/status/1826876226243264617

“Has stolen the last three years of my life” You know what would’ve helped with that? Not launching the case in the first place.

“There is so much hate cast on trans people” Acknowledging biological reality is not hateful.

“When I walked into the courtroom, I felt safe because I was treated with respect” Bro, the TRA’s out the front didn’t even recognize you. I know that because I was there. You were also “misgendered” multiple times by your own team. Pfft. THIS is the face that is setting women’s rights back in

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https://twitter.com/SoniaRGallego/status/1826764517172564295

Absolutely wild to watch a judge claim that sex can be changed because official documents can be updated with information contrary to the material reality of the person.#TickleVGiggle #IStandWithSallGrover #Onward

— Billy Bragg (@Serena_Partrick) August 22, 2024

It’s the “It’s in her passport” claim all over again. “What do you mean, it says she’s a woman right here in this little booklet thing!”

Women are second class citizens in Australia.
Absolutely out of their minds.

The fight is now to define sex in law?#TickleVGiggle

— RachelKnewBest XX (@RachelBowljiffy) August 22, 2024

It was nice having some rights. Quaint, but nice.… Read the rest

Fuming. Also raging.

https://twitter.com/STILLTish/status/1826761267891372090 https://twitter.com/MPMacLachlan/status/1826760891762966886

Australian women have no right to make a procedural boundary with a man if that man has a gender identity of female. Justice Bromwich relied heavily on the Qld BDM legislation that Shannon Femtiman admitted to making to affirm trans identified males. #TickleVGiggle

— Edie Wyatt (@msediewyatt) August 22, 2024

Apologies for swearing but I fucking hate this world. Women have zero rights anymore. A hairy arsed bloke now has to be accommodated whenever women want to meet, chat or do whatever they fucking well want to do. I hope no male only spaces are allowed in Aus any longer. https://t.co/ZTs1eeUBcw

— TheVikingDane (@TheVikingDane) August 22, 2024

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Fuck fuck fuck.

Women can’t get together without men in Australia.

https://twitter.com/salltweets/status/1826762817372127508

Women’s rights to assemble and to provide female only services away from males no longer exists in Australia. Here is the verdict in full. #TickleVGiggle #MensRightsActivists pic.twitter.com/uPpKA0l4pa

— Admiral Invalidator (@Artofhunger75) August 22, 2024

The Federal Court of Australia just sent a massive "f*ck you" to women across the globe.

"Roxanne" Tickle's indirect discrimination claim has succeeded. Giggle has been told to pay him $10k.#IStandWithSallGrover pic.twitter.com/UnmgzfkgAJ

— Brandubh (@brandubh4) August 22, 2024

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