The leaks are real but the news is fake
I just watched the last 40 minutes or so of Trump’s press conference. It was unbelievable. He’s always worse than it’s possible to imagine ahead of time. He’s incoherent – spasmodic – irascible – ignorant – boastful – truculent – prickly – vain – hyperbolic – absurd – mendacious of course – unctuous – clueless – childish –
I don’t see how anyone can watch him in action without wondering how in hell he managed to get the job he has and why we can’t kick him out right this second.
The Post has a transcript with annotations by Aaron Blake.
We have had great conversations with the United Kingdom, and meetings. Israel, Mexico, Japan, China and Canada, really, really productive conversations. I would say far more productive than you would understand.
He says that kind of thing a lot – you wouldn’t understand, you don’t know, you’re not involved. He understands less than almost anyone, yet he’s always turning it around that way. Dunning-Kruger on steroids.
I’m here following through on what I pledged to do. That’s all I’m doing. I put it out before the American people, got 306 electoral college votes. I wasn’t supposed to get 222. They said there’s no way to get 222, 230’s impossible.
270 which you need, that was laughable. We got 306 because people came out and voted like they’ve never seen before so that’s the way it goes.
That’s exactly what he said yesterday to the Israeli journalist who asked what he would say to people worried about the surge in Antisemitism since the election. He’s obsessed with it.
We’ve begun preparing to repeal and replace Obamacare. Obamacare is a disaster, folks. It is’s disaster. I know you can say, oh, Obamacare. I mean, they fill up our alleys with people that you wonder how they get there, but they are not the Republican people our that representatives are representing.
Yeah I don’t know. No idea.
In response to a question he explained about Flynn and leaks and all that there.
As far as the general’s concerned, when I first heard about it, I said huh, that doesn’t sound wrong. My counsel came, Don McGahn, White House Counsel, and he told me and I asked him, he can speak very well for himself. He said he doesn’t think anything is wrong, you know, really didn’t think.
It was really, what happened after that but he didn’t think anything was done wrong. I didn’t either because I waited a period of time and I started to think about it, I said “well I don’t see” — to me, he was doing the job.
The information was provided by — who I don’t know, Sally Yates. And I was a little surprised because I said “doesn’t sound like he did anything wrong there.” But he did something wrong with respect to the vice president and I thought that was not acceptable. As far as — as far as the actual making the call, fact I’ve watched various programs and I’ve read various articles where he was just doing his job.
That was very normal. You know, first everybody got excited because they thought he did something wrong. After they thought about it, it turned out he was just doing his job. So — and I do. And by the way, with all of that being said, I do think he’s a fine man.
Clear?
The reporter nudged him about the leaks.
Yes, we’re looking at them very — very, very serious. I’ve gone to all of the folks in charge of the various agencies and we’re — I’ve actually called the Justice Department to look into the leaks. Those are criminal leaks. They’re put out by people either in agencies — I think you’ll see it stopping because now we have our people in. You know, again, we don’t have our people in because we can’t get them approved by the Senate.
We just had Jeff Sessions approved. In justice, as an example (ph). So, we are looking into that very seriously. It’s a criminal act. You know what I say, when I — when I was called out on Mexico, I was shocked because all this equipment, all this incredible phone equipment — when I was called out on Mexico, I was — honestly, I was really, really surprised.
But I said “you know, it doesn’t make sense. That won’t happen” but that wasn’t that important a call, it was fine, I could show it to the world and he could show it to the world, the president who’s a very fine man, by the way. Same thing with Australia. I said “that’s terrible that it was leaked” but it wasn’t that important. But then I said to myself “what happens when I’m dealing with the problem of North Korea?”
Oh I’m glad you asked us that. What happens when you’re dealing with the problem of North Korea is that you do it in a public dining room at Mar-a-Lago while the people around you illuminate the documents with their phones. That’s what happens.
Them leaks though.
Well the leaks are real. You’re the one that wrote about them and reported them, I mean the leaks are real. You know what they said, you saw it and the leaks are absolutely real. The news is fake because so much of the news is fake. So one thing that I felt it was very important to do — and I hope we can correct it. Because there’s nobody I have more respect for — well, maybe a little bit but the reporters, good reporters.
It’s very important to me and especially in this position. It’s very important. I don’t mind bad stories. I can handle a bad story better than anybody as long as it’s true and, you know, over a course of time, I’ll make mistakes and you’ll write badly and I’m OK with that. But I’m not OK when it is fake. I mean, I watch CNN, it’s so much anger and hatred and just the hatred.
I don’t watch it any more because it’s very good — he’s saying no. It’s OK, Jim (ph). It’s OK, Jim (ph), you’ll have your chance. But I watch others too. You’re not the only one so don’t feel badly. But I think it should be straight. I think it should be — I think it would be frankly more interesting. I know how good everybody’s ratings are right now but I think that actually — I think that’d actually be better.
People — I mean, you have a lower approval rate than Congress. I think that’s right. I don’t know, Peter (ph), is that one right? Because you know I think they have lower — I heard lower than Congress. But honestly, the public would appreciate it, I’d appreciate it — again, I don’t mind bad stories when it’s true but we have an administration where the Democrats are making it very difficult.
A reporter asked how it makes sense to say the leaks are real but the news is fake.
You know what it is? Here’s the thing. The public isn’t — you know, they read newspapers, they see television, they watch. They don’t know if it’s true or false because they’re not involved. I’m involved. I’ve been involved with this stuff all my life. But I’m involved. So I know when you’re telling the truth or when you’re not. I just see many, many untruthful things.
And I’ll tell you what else I see. I see tone. You know the word “tone.” The tone is such hatred. I’m really not a bad person, by the way. No, but the tone is such — I do get good ratings, you have to admit that — the tone is such hatred.
I watched this morning a couple of the networks. And I have to say, Fox & Friends in the morning, they’re very honorable people. They’re very — not because they’re good, because they hit me also when I do something wrong. But they have the most honest morning show. That’s all I can say. It’s the most honest.
But the tone, Jim. If you look — the hatred. The, I mean, sometimes — sometimes somebody gets…
(CROSSTALK)
TRUMP: Well, you look at your show that goes on at 10 o’clock in the evening. You just take a look at that show. That is a constant hit. The panel is almost always exclusive anti-Trump. The good news is he doesn’t have good ratings. But the panel is almost exclusive anti-Trump. And the hatred and venom coming from his mouth; the hatred coming from other people on your network.
Now, I will say this. I watch it. I see it. I’m amazed by it. And I just think you’d be a lot better off, I honestly do. The public gets it, you know. Look, when I go to rallies, they turn around, they start screaming at CNN. They want to throw their placards at CNN. You know.
I — I think you would do much better by being different. But you just take a look. Take a look at some of your shows in the morning and the evening. If a guest comes out and says something positive about me, it’s — it’s brutal.
And why is that? It’s because he’s 1. a terrible human being and 2. totally unqualified to be president and incompetent at being president.
It’s true that the coverage is out of the ordinary – but there are reasons for that. The reasons have to do with Trump, not with the wickedness of the news media.
No, that’s how I won. I won with news conferences and probably speeches. I certainly didn’t win by people listening to you people. That’s for sure. But I’m having a good time.
Tomorrow, they will say, “Donald Trump rants and raves at the press.” I’m not ranting and raving. I’m just telling you. You know, you’re dishonest people. But — but I’m not ranting and raving. I love this. I’m having a good time doing it.
But tomorrow, the headlines are going to be, “Donald Trump rants and raves.” I’m not ranting and raving.
Hahahahaha oh yes he was. He absolutely was ranting and raving.
Jim Acosta asks him if he doesn’t worry at all about undermining the free press.
Here’s the thing. OK. I understand what you’re — and you’re right about that, except this. See, I know when I should get good and when I should get bad. And sometimes I’ll say, “Wow, that’s going to be a great story.” And I’ll get killed.
I know what’s good and bad. I’d be a pretty good reporter, not as good as you. But I know what’s good. I know what’s bad. And when they change it and make it really bad, something that should be positive — sometimes something that should be very positive, they’ll make OK. They’ll even make it negative.
So I understand it. So, because I’m there. I know what was said. I know who’s saying it. I’m there. So it’s very important to me.
Look, I want to see an honest press. When I started off today by saying that it’s so important to the public to get an honest press. The press — the public doesn’t believe you people anymore. Now, maybe I had something to do with that. I don’t know. But they don’t believe you. If you were straight and really told it like it is, as Howard Cosell used to say, right?
Of course, he had some questions also. But if you were straight, I would be your biggest booster. I would be your biggest fan in the world, including bad stories about me. But if you go – as an example, you’re CNN, I mean it’s story after story after story is bad. I won. I won. And the other thing, chaos because zero chaos. We are running – this is a fine-tuned machine and Reince happens to be doing a good job but half of his job is putting out lies by the press (ph).
That place where he says “I won, I won.” The paragraph should end there, because he did a dramatic pause there. He said “I won,” then a little pause, then more emphatically “I won!” with a wide accordion-gesture and a long pause. He said it meaningfully – as in, “I won, so what’s all this about saying I do bad things? How can the things be bad when I won?” He’s that stupid.
You know, I said to him yesterday this whole Russia scam that you guys are building so that you don’t talk about the real subject which is illegal leaks, but I watched him yesterday working so hard to try and get that story proper. And I’m saying “here’s my chief of staff,” a really good guy, did a phenomenal job at RNC. I mean, he won the election, right?
We won the presidency. We got some senators, we got some – all over the country, you take a look, he’s done a great job. And I said to myself, you know – and I said to somebody that was in the room, I said “you take a look at Reince, he’s working so hard just putting out fires that are fake fires.” I mean, they’re fake. They’re not true. And isn’t that a shame because he’d rather be working on healthcare, he’d rather be working on tax reform, Jim (ph).
I mean that. I would be your biggest fan in the world if you treated me right. I sort of understand there’s a certain bias maybe by Jeff (ph) or somebody, you know – you know, whatever reason. But – and I understand that. But you’ve got to be at least a little bit fair and that’s why the public sees it. They see it. They see it’s not fair. You take a look at some of your shows and you see the bias and the hatred.
And the public is smart, they understand it.
That’s the president.
“The press — the public doesn’t believe you people anymore. Now, maybe I had something to do with that. I don’t know.”
That’s… more honest and self-aware than I was expecting.
A nice joke from Stephen Colbert (via NYT) regarding Trump’s muddled “thinking”:
“Here’s the thing: It can’t be both fake news and an illegal leak of classified information. ‘Your honor, I did not murder that man. The real criminal is whoever filmed me strangling him.’”
Thanks, Ophelia, for subjecting yourself to this press conference so I don’t have to. Given a choice between being waterboarded and watching the whole thing, I’m not sure what I’d choose – whenever I hear him speak, I feel a need to flee or hit something. And your list of adjectives is perfect – throw in avaricious – irrational – needy – reckless and so, so much more…
“Dunning-Kruger on steroids” Oh man! I’m gonna be using that phrase!
Every time I read what he says I hear it in Norm Crosby’s voice. Probably a defense mechanism or he’s plagiarizing Crosby’s act.
I suspect he thinks that we wouldn’t understand it because he didn’t understand it. He thinks he’s brilliant, so if he can’t understand it, then definitely over our heads, zip, because we’re losers.
News flash. No one is just representing the Republicans; you don’t get to just represent those who voted for you, or those you like. You have to represent everyone. You have to consider everyone. A Republican takeover doesn’t mean only Republicans are citizens. It doesn’t mean my representative (who is not a very good representative) is entitled to pretend that I am not his constituent. He can ignore me, and does, but that is because he is a lousy representative, not because I am not a Republican. This isn’t how it works. And he (DJT) is too ignorant to even recognize that. He is the representative of the Democrats, the Republicans, the Mexicans, the Muslims, the Jews, the African-Americans, the women (yes, even the ‘fat,ugly’ women). He doesn’t get to pick and choose, he is obligated to serve us all, and treat us all as having equal rights. Because we do (in theory, anyway).
Please, can I wake up from this nightmare now?
“But he did something wrong with respect to the vice president and I thought that was not acceptable. As far as — as far as the actual making the call, fact I’ve watched various programs and I’ve read various articles where he was just doing his job.” So the real problem was lying to the VP, not making illegal contact with the Russians. And he figured this out from watching programs and reading articles (more likely just the captions of the photos)? Couldn’t he just ask Flynn? Couldn’t he ask his staff about the actual legality of what was alleged to have occurred? Have someone Google “Logan Act” for him?
” I can handle a bad story better than anybody as long as it’s true and, you know, over a course of time, I’ll make mistakes and you’ll write badly and I’m OK with that. But I’m not OK when it is fake. ” HAHAHAHAHA! He can’t handle a bad story AT ALL.
” I’m involved. I’ve been involved with this stuff all my life.”
Involved in what? Public service? Government? No. Being a person used to having his orders obeyed? More like.
“But I’m involved.”
Except when Bannon gets himself embedded in the NSC.
“So I know when you’re telling the truth or when you’re not. I just see many, many untruthful things.”
How does he know? The bad ones are all fake, the fake ones are all bad.
” See, I know when I should get good and when I should get bad. ” Now it just sounds like he’s second guessing Santa. So be good, for goodness sake!”
And when I read this: “We are running – this is a fine-tuned machine” I can’t help but think of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFT2s1bgKEE
Funny, I think of this… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=779fMc8ubOo
The “I won. I won,” is, indeed, very illustrative of the mindset. He figured that once he was President, once he’d “gotten the job”, that all the hard work was over and everyone would just fall in line. He had no clue that there was going to be an opposition, there were going to be other people’s agendas involved, even within his own party, let alone the Democrats and Independents out there. He thought it worked like one of his beauty pageants, and he’s confused because he was supposed to get the crown and then everyone would applaud forever, or at least until the next pageant.
Your Name’s not Bruce?:
No you’re not getting it. Theoretically speaking, he can handle a bad story fine as long as it’s true and fair. But since he never does anything bad, any actually existing bad stories are untrue and unfair by definition. QED.
iknklst, you have done a wonderful job of describing how representative government is supposed to work, but surely the reason we’ve been so screwed as a nation is that, if they were honest, the “I only represent the people who voted for me/donated to me” mindset is quite common among politicians.
I see how his rhetoric works, as a technique:
His first line claims he has uncommon wisdom beyond his audience. His second line flatters his audience that they share his uncommon wisdom.
I see Dunning-Kruger as a separate issue about his internal states. My point is that his rhetoric has been working for 30+ years. He bonds with his marks like this and this.
I need to get around to writing a bot that tweets whenever he actually finishes a sentence. It shouldn’t take up too much bandwidth.
Does this guy even have a theory of mind?
Samantha, I do realize that. Yes. But I do have to keep kicking against the bad.
And seriously, I think sometimes it does work that way. I think Obama took very seriously his responsibility to people who didn’t vote for him, and tried very hard to accommodate them in his actions. But every time he moved a step toward them, they moved further back, and denied that they had wanted what he was giving them, even though they had been screaming for it, and that they wanted this thing over here, instead.
I also think Clinton was actually more giving to those who voted against him than those that voted for him.
So in reality, what we end up with is a system where the Republicans represent the Republicans because they voted for them, and the Democrats represent the Republicans because they don’t want to be seen as representing only those who voted for them (and consequently, often throw their own voters under the bus. It isn’t very comfortable under the bus).
Francis @ 13 – no, he doesn’t. I’ve been saying that ever since we were all forced to start paying attention to him (i.e. since last July). The guy is mind-blind.