More compassion for trafficked children than for conservative scholars
So let’s read those two “down with identity politics” pieces written by people who don’t need “identity politics.”
First Kristof May 7.
WE progressives believe in diversity, and we want women, blacks, Latinos, gays and Muslims at the table — er, so long as they aren’t conservatives.
Universities are the bedrock of progressive values, but the one kind of diversity that universities disregard is ideological and religious. We’re fine with people who don’t look like us, as long as they think like us.
That’s a silly observation. It’s a category mistake. Progressives think women, blacks, Latinos, gays and Muslims and so on shouldn’t be systematically excluded from various societal goods simply on the basis of who they are. That has nothing to do with what kind of people progressives seek out as friends and/or political comrades. No, I don’t have to make a point of befriending conservatives or religious believers on the grounds that belief in equal rights entails it.
I’ve been thinking about this because on Facebook recently I wondered aloud whether universities stigmatize conservatives and undermine intellectual diversity. The scornful reaction from my fellow liberals proved the point.
That could be true, but the way he phrased it is again a mixing of categories. A point of view isn’t necessarily a stigmatization of the opposed view. “Intellectual diversity” isn’t necessarily a good thing, because it depends. There are standards in intellectual work, and those standards filter out people who don’t meet them. That’s as it should be. You don’t want to include charlatans and buffoons and conspiracy-mongers in your “intellectual diversity.” You don’t want to include hacks, either.
To me, the conversation illuminated primarily liberal arrogance — the implication that conservatives don’t have anything significant to add to the discussion. My Facebook followers have incredible compassion for war victims in South Sudan, for kids who have been trafficked, even for abused chickens, but no obvious empathy for conservative scholars facing discrimination.
Oh, my – that’s an unfortunate set of analogies. Yes, oddly enough, I do have more compassion for war victims and trafficked children than I have for conservative scholars facing purported discrimination. I hope everyone does, including conservative scholars.
The stakes involve not just fairness to conservatives or evangelical Christians, not just whether progressives will be true to their own values, not just the benefits that come from diversity (and diversity of thought is arguably among the most important kinds), but also the quality of education itself. When perspectives are unrepresented in discussions, when some kinds of thinkers aren’t at the table, classrooms become echo chambers rather than sounding boards — and we all lose.
No. Conservatives, yes, but evangelical Christians, no. Practicing evangelical Christians can’t contribute to intellectual or scholarly or educational discussion, because that’s not what they do. Diversity does not demand that they be represented on university faculties.
Conservatives can be spotted in the sciences and in economics, but they are virtually an endangered species in fields like anthropology, sociology, history and literature. One study found that only 2 percent of English professors are Republicans (although a large share are independents).
In contrast, some 18 percent of social scientists say they are Marxist. So it’s easier to find a Marxist in some disciplines than a Republican.
Sigh. Again, this is just silly. What if Marxists are more drawn to the social sciences than Republicans are? This isn’t a question of inborn characteristics, it’s a question of acquired tastes and interests.
He does go on to cite actual studies.
The scarcity of conservatives seems driven in part by discrimination. One peer-reviewed study found that one-third of social psychologists admitted that if choosing between two equally qualified job candidates, they would be inclined to discriminate against the more conservative candidate.
Yancey, the black sociologist, who now teaches at the University of North Texas, conducted a survey in which up to 30 percent of academics said that they would be less likely to support a job seeker if they knew that the person was a Republican.
The discrimination becomes worse if the applicant is an evangelical Christian. According to Yancey’s study, 59 percent of anthropologists and 53 percent of English professors would be less likely to hire someone they found out was an evangelical.
But that’s not discrimination in the pejorative sense. Evangelicals have an extra filter, and it’s a filter that screens out much of what is important to disciplines like anthropology and literature. I don’t think we should be treating literalist religion as a mere arbitrary marker when in fact it’s a very substantive view of the world, which can interfere with more thoughtful views of the world. It’s not ideal for an academic.
“Of course there are biases against evangelicals on campuses,” notes Jonathan L. Walton, the Plummer Professor of Christian Morals at Harvard. Walton, a black evangelical, adds that the condescension toward evangelicals echoes the patronizing attitude toward racial minorities: “The same arguments I hear people make about evangelicals sound so familiar to the ways people often describe folk of color, i.e. politically unsophisticated, lacking education, angry, bitter, emotional, poor.”
Horseshit. That’s just manipulative. The two are not comparable and we’re not required to treat them as if they were.
Universities should be a hubbub of the full range of political perspectives from A to Z, not just from V to Z. So maybe we progressives could take a brief break from attacking the other side and more broadly incorporate values that we supposedly cherish — like diversity — in our own dominions.
Should they? Really? Should there be KKK perspectives, Nazi perspectives, ISIS perspectives, Opus Dei perspectives?
Just because a profession requires an ability to evenhandedly read and critique many viewpoints, we shouldn’t discriminate against people who are biased and closed to new ideas!
This is an interesting statement. In my experience (granted, not systematic), conservatives dominate in economics, not “are spotted” in economics. They also tend to dominate in business, and probably in engineering. A substantial percentage of doctors are conservatives, so obviously medical schools are not screening them out.
In my field, Environmental Science, there were two conservatives that I met. This was not the result of screening, as no one knew they were conservatives when they were admitted. This was the result of the fact that conservatives who do not value the environment are unlikely to go into Environmental Science, especially since it is a low prestige, low pay field.
And might that be the actual predictor? Conservatives tend to value profit. Liberal arts are not profit fields. These are low prestige, low paid fields that are often the first to get cut back when the school decides they need the money.
Besides, this whole argument is that nonsensical “all ideas have validity” argument. Really? It is as valid to suggest that people of color and women are inferior to white men as it is to suggest the other? That is what these articles seem to suggest. Yes, that’s it, women and people of color should move to the back of the bus, because otherwise…we’ll discriminate against those that are not facing discrimination, are not likely to face discrimination, and tend to themselves practice discrimination. This constant bang bang bang of the drum about “liberal” universities is just another “but what about the men” whine.
I think that probably is an actual predictor, yes, but I didn’t say so because Kristof mentioned the idea and poured scorn on it, so I went around it, as one goes around a hole in the road.
It’s funny. I’m an academic scientist in the US and my field is heavily populated by liberals but the reason for that is probably the odd way right wing politics has associated itself with various anti-science nonsense – it seems to be necessary to reject evolution, the big bang, climate change etc in order to qualify as conservative. This is in my experience a US phenomenon. In the UK, I knew many scientists who were Tories because the British Conservative Party does not reject science in the same way US Republicans do.
I think there are two things that drive this – the rise of the religious right, who tend to have a very fundamentalist reading of Christianity and the growing slant in the GOP towards authoritarianism, which historically whether rightist or leftist, does seem to bend towards anti-intellectualism. Uneducated people are easier to control I suppose.
The other piece of it may be that if you are right wing, you are probably more materially driven as opposed to good of mankind driven. Nobody goes into academia for the money. Therefore, industry may be more attractive to scientists with a conservative outlook. This is wild speculation on my part, but I do wonder what the results would be if you surveyed the political beliefs of scientists working in Big Pharma, oil companies or high tech engineering.
One (minor) point: not all Evangelicals are biblical literalists. They’re not all conservative, either.
Those three things usually do go together. But not always.
@Claire #4
That’s the key, isn’t it? We should avoid echo chambers in academe. Group think is always a problem (on the Left and everywhere else.) Conservative thought should have a place at the table–
But in the U.S., Conservatism has embraced bigots, kooks and paranoiacs since forever, and it’s never made a concerted effort to weed them out. So whose fault is it if educated people look askance at the label.
I don’t know why I said “we” in #5. I’m not in academe. I guess I meant “we” as in “us humans.”
Who’s this “we,” kemosabe…
Or “we” as in people who value learning and intellectualism and similar, in academe or out of it. That’s a much bigger “we” and it matters.
“The scarcity of conservatives seems driven in part by discrimination. One peer-reviewed study found that one-third of social psychologists admitted that if choosing between two equally qualified job candidates, they would be inclined to discriminate against the more conservative candidate.”
So—when asked to choose between two qualified candidates—two-thirds of social psychologists would be “inclined to discriminate” on some other basis? Would two-thirds be “inclined to discriminate” against the less conservative candidate? (Everyone in the study was asked to “discriminate” against one of the two qualified candidates, after all.)
Totally true piece. And it is certainly great that everyone here agrees. Personally, I don’t see why we even need a so-called ‘conservative’ point of view. What we do in the social sciences is purely and simply invalid if it does not recognize the moral imperatives of feminism, multiculturalism, social justice, and gender equality.
I detect a hint of sarcasm.
Yancey, the black sociologist
Is this the best phrasing?
Aside from all the more substantive points already made, there is this:
Terrible writing, C+, do better next time.
@Lady Mondegreen #6,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosism#pluralis_modestiae
@Axxyaan Brilliant–I just woke up, and I’ve learned a new word. On to my thesis!
Totally true piece. And it is certainly great that everyone here agrees. Personally, I don’t see why we even need a so-called ‘conservative’ point of view. What we do in the social sciences is purely and simply invalid if it does not recognize the moral imperatives of feminism, multiculturalism, social justice, and gender equality.
Yes, those imperatives mean absolutely everything. And I, too, think we don’t need these so-called ‘conservative’ points of view. And those individuals nimble enough to spot patterns, trends and tendencies having any potential to threaten those moral imperatives should be sidelined and denied a platform.
At times religion can rear its head in ways that sees people boxing their own shadows.
John, did you bother to read what I wrote?
Yes, universities ‘stigmatize’ flat-earthers, creationists, anti-vaxxers etc. Almost as much as they should. Supply side economists and red-diaper Stalininsts should probably be included in the ‘out’ group as well.
Remember when moral and epistemic relativism was supposed to be ‘progressive?’ It seems to be the only thing the Right has grasped in all the diversity.
Worth noting that under the assumption of default white maleness as ‘standard humanity’ is the template for the worst kind of ‘identity politics.’ Thinking of the classic eugenic texts, rationales for imperialism, and all the ‘beleaguered White Race’ claptrap of the last two centuries.
John and Susan: The problem is that in order to get a place at the table, you have to earn it by putting forward sound, evidence-based thinking–and that’s something that conservativism, and particularly religious conservativism, has had a long history rejecting. Having an advocate for “race realism” in your department just because you think you need to represent their point of view would be like having a requirement that the physics department seek out ether theory advocates.