Very familiar
The White House has Obama’s remarks at the mosque the other day.
Now, a lot of Americans have never visited a mosque. To the folks watching this today who haven’t — think of your own church, or synagogue, or temple, and a mosque like this will be very familiar. This is where families come to worship and express their love for God and each other. There’s a school where teachers open young minds. Kids play baseball and football and basketball — boys and girls — I hear they’re pretty good.
Um…no. Not exactly; not entirely. According to Asra Nomani and Ify Okoye, the mosque in question is strictly gender segregated:
This past weekend, dozens of girls and boys as young as about 8 years old ran up the stairwell to the main entrance of the musallah, or main prayer hall, of the Islamic Society of Baltimore, where President Obama visits Wednesday in his first presidential visit to a U.S. mosque. As the children rounded the corner, a stern mosque Sunday school teacher stood before them, shouting, “Girls, inside the gym! Boys in the musallah.”
The girls, shrouded in headscarves that, in some cases, draped half their bodies, slipped into a stark gymnasium and found seats on bare red carpet pieces laid out in a corner. They faced a tall industrial cement block wall, in the direction of the qibla, facing Mecca, a basketball hoop above them. Before them a long narrow window poured a small dash of sunlight into the dark gym.
On the other side of the wall, the boys clamored excitedly into the majestic musallah, their feet padded by thick, decorated carpet, the sunlight flooding into the room through spectacular windows engraved with the 99 names of Allah, or God, in Islam. Ornate Korans and Islamic books filled shelves that lined the front walls.
So, no, the mosque will not be “very familiar” to most people, just as a church which confines girls and women to an unadorned annex while boys and men get the church proper will not be “very familiar.” Obama shouldn’t normalize gender separate and unequal that way. I understand why he does it but I think he shouldn’t.
He does it because Muslims face a great deal of hostility and prejudice, and sometimes abuse and violence. He’s right to try to change that.
We’re one American family. And when any part of our family starts to feel separate or second-class or targeted, it tears at the very fabric of our nation. (Applause.)
It’s a challenge to our values — and that means we have much work to do. We’ve got to tackle this head on. We have to be honest and clear about it. And we have to speak out. This is a moment when, as Americans, we have to truly listen to each other and learn from each other. And I believe it has to begin with a common understanding of some basic facts. And I express these facts, although they’d be obvious to many of the people in this place, because, unfortunately, it’s not facts that are communicated on a regular basis through our media.
So let’s start with this fact: For more than a thousand years, people have been drawn to Islam’s message of peace. And the very word itself, Islam, comes from salam — peace. The standard greeting is as-salamu alaykum — peace be upon you. And like so many faiths, Islam is rooted in a commitment to compassion and mercy and justice and charity. Whoever wants to enter paradise, the Prophet Muhammad taught, “let him treat people the way he would love to be treated.” (Applause.) For Christians like myself, I’m assuming that sounds familiar. (Laughter.)
And yet Islam didn’t acquire so many followers by peaceful means. And if Islam really is rooted in a commitment to compassion and mercy and justice and charity, then why are countries where Islam is the official religion such horrible places for human beings? Why are they not conspicuous for compassion or justice?
Apparently the segregation was lifted for the President’s speech. I went off an a rant about “nigger heavens” for women, until a friend gave me a link to the video. As to mosques being different from churches, I don’t know, but segregation is alive and well in synagogues. (The reformers call them “temples” and never had segregation) At my childhood shul the women sat in the balcony and that was a Conservative, not an Orthodox synagogue. Over near where I live, the Hassid men won’t look women in the eye, or shake their hands, though my friends who are sex workers say that those rules are (ahem) “suspended” under certain circumstances.
Brian, they probably still don’t look them in the eye or shake their hands…
Ophelia, I think you are spot on. It’s certainly not racist to identify issues with a religion and to discuss how that affects both the adherents and those interacting with them. I’ve often found myself wondering why societies that have a ritualistic greeting around peace are often (not always) those that are violent and/or warlike. Could it be a mutual form of reassurance that ‘not this time’.
Rob, that strikes me as a very astute observation. (The final one;)
Gender apartheid is not acceptable in civilized society. And the ‘extra-oppressed’ status claimed by Muslims doesn’t make an exception, any more than it would if the president had visited a Hasidic or Mormon congregation with the same, or similar, practices.
Obama also said that to blame Islam for ISIS is terrorist propaganda that helps our enemies, a betrayal of our values. One would think “our values” included things like freedom of speech and gender equality, but I didn’t hear the president say anything about the fate of women or apostates or blasphemers or gays under Islamic regimes. I’ve written more about the President’s remarks here.
My school visited a synagogue in London. The women’s section was upstairs in a kind of gallery, while the men’s was ground level and closer to the action. We were a girl’s school and very feminist but were always discouraged from criticising religions, especially minority religions (this often applied to people who belonged to the religion in question). It seems strange now. In English we were reading To Kill a Mockingbird where the black people have to sit in the gallery in the courthouse and I doubt we could all have missed the parallels.
I once attended a conference at a mosque that was gender segregated but at least it was side by side so neither group had a favourable position (I know there’s still a problem but it’s far better than women being relegated to the back).
@5,
Followed your link, Ezra.
Yes.
He does it because Muslims face a great deal of hostility and prejudice, and sometimes abuse and violence. He’s right to try to change that.
I don’t think that’s true. The mosque Obama spoke at has a history of hosting supremacist hate preachers.
Resisting the introduction of sharia compliant initiatives in schools, universities and the workplace has nothing whatsoever to do with hating Muslims.
It’s about protecting neutral, secular, public spaces from the onslaught of theocratic fascism.
Pushing back against these predatory, Islamist aggressions has nothing to do with bigotry; it’s what progressive secularists should be doing.
@5 Good write up at your blog. Obama would have been less in error had he addressed a group of fundamentalist, breakaway Mormons and praised their contributions to America’s social fabric.
Here are some moderates we should be working with.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/12/21/as-muslim-women-we-actually-ask-you-not-to-wear-the-hijab-in-the-name-of-interfaith-solidarity/