People and their groups
About ISIS and Joyce Carol Oates and humanity and whether or not there’s anything good to say about groups like ISIS or the people who join ISIS…
Here’s my view. I don’t think there is anything good to say about ISIS as a group. Its purpose and actions are rooted in a theocratic loathing of human beings. Its prxis is about what you would expect from such a loathing.
But the people who make up ISIS? That’s a very different question. Some may be thoroughly horrible yet still redeemable, some may be thoroughly horrible full stop, some may be more deluded than horrible. I don’t know. There are a lot of such people, and it’s all but certain that they vary along that continuum.
But Oates’s question was about ISIS the group. ISIS the group doesn’t resemble, say, the Catholic church, which includes some wonderful people doing wonderful work, and which also includes people doing more or less useful, compassionate, etc work but with churchy strings attached, and people doing good work who also do terrible things. It’s a mixed bag. ISIS not so much. Hizbollah does some useful work along with other kinds, but ISIS, as far as I’ve ever heard, doesn’t. It conquers people and kills all the ones it doesn’t enslave. It’s not sweet.
People who join ISIS and help with its projects may be redeemable but even if they are…they have a heavy load to bear for the rest of their lives. People can change, people are seldom all one thing, but it seems safe to say that belonging to ISIS is not good for the character.
Thank you!
Some people probably are going along with them for pure survival, and will have nightmares the rest of their lives. But that’s just another way in which the group harms and destroys.
But just who, among those active enough in Iraq and Syria that you could say they have an agenda there, includes on that agenda attempts to redeem any of the current participants, other than by execution?
And, aspirants to theocracy use Good Works to make their intended rule look good in comparison to the corrupt or weak governments that allow them to gain a toehold.
The Klan in the devastated south, the Croat Catholic/fascists in Yugoslavia, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbollah, etc. etc. In Syria, almost anyone can inspire optimism simply by NOT being part of the Assad clan.