God put you here to have 20 babies
At the heart of every great religion is compassion.
Catholic bishops have threatened to excommunicate President Benigno Aquino over a reproductive health bill introduced into the Congress yesterday…The aim of the bill is to control population growth, reduce HIV infection rates and eradicate the need for women to seek backstreet abortions.
Well the Catholic church isn’t having that. Hell no. More population growth despite grinding poverty; higher HIV infection rates; more backstreet abortions. The compassionate approach.
…the church, which has enormous clout in the Philippines, is not about to give way. Since 1998, it has quashed several previous versions of the bill. “Sex is not a game that should be taught to children, along with the use of condoms, supposedly to avoid disease,” the Archbishop of Manila, Gaudencio Rosales, told an anti-contraception rally in the capital two months ago.
Sex is also not a game that should be taught to archbishops, we’re told, yet archbishops don’t hesitate to tell all 7 billion of us all about it. Compassion in action.
Let’s have a Draw an Archbishop Day, and see what Chris Stedman says about that.
This is supposed to be an argument against the bill?
From the older Notes and Comment post “Take a cold shower” on a similar subject:
Dignity, you see. We all care about it.
Also, Manny Pacquiao’s comments are especially amusing. Doesn’t he know having just two children is still multiplying by two? God never said to multiply exponentially.
“…however the church should steadfastly ignore or conceal sex that is forced upon children by church employees; if it’s discovered then blame is to be placed on gays, the 60s, or secularism.”
Rapist-enabling aside, if the Church paused from wagging its bony fingers at everyone for two seconds, they’d realise that we residents of reality don’t see sex as a frivolous game either (unless that’s what the consenting adults involved want it to be). Educating children about the realities and potential consequences of sex is an important responsibility which needs to be handled with care, not shoved under the fricking rug and labelled “do not touch” until someone’s wedding night.I know they’re a pack of entrenched, insular virgins with little real knowledge of the world; nonetheless I’m still often baffled by the Church’s complete ignorance of everyday reality.
Ophelia, you need to shut up and build a bridge! A bridge built on agreeing with everything the Catholic Church says, and biting back any of your own concerns or interests. After all, these are Chris Stedman’s friends, and they’re paying for him to give a speech in a few weeks and will let him hob-nob with other rich, privileged elites… so the Catholics and their beliefs are worthy of respect, and the impoverished, infected people in the Philippines and elsewhere are not.
This is supposed to be an argument against the bill?
Pacquiao is pretty damn popular in the Phillipines, so his words can be somewhat influential. But it’s still a stupid argument. The same thing be said about Marcos. “If we only could have aborted little Ferdinand, all those people might not have killed and Aquino may not have been assassinated. Three cheers for abortion! Yay abortion Wheeee!”
I like this
The women who are going to die because of a lack of contraception are, no doubt, not important enough to bother asking.
Probably shouldn’t comment drunk but
What’s the point of building bridges when the other side is just gonna use it to mount an even bigger offensive then they have? I understand the importance of never taking yourself to seriously but, there’s a reason we’re on opposing sides of an issue. We have different values, ideals and goals. We can’t just gloss all that over and pretend we agree when we don’t just to spite a common enemy or advance this or that agenda. If we are skeptic’s and we value honesty we should hold ideas to the strictest standards instead of giving a by to those we feel will advance our political agenda.
What they really want are Catholic babies.
Most of you have probably seen the cartoon with Ratzinger holding two stone tablets, with one commandment written on each: “Your sex lives are our business” and “Our sex lives are none of your business.”
What they really want are Catholic babies. “Your sex lives are our business” and “Our sex lives are none of your business.” thanks for the shortcuts about reality. But that’s exactly why religion can’t exist without the sheeps. A parasite can only life on a body. And because these gangsters won’t multiply themselves by biological processes others must do it for them to hold the body alife. And therefore the greatest sin is take your birthrate into your own hands. Shepherds are also the shearers and the butchers as everybody know except the deluded.
Obviously the executives and employees of RCC Inc. want their “flock” to be as fecund as possible to ensure the continuing wealth of the corporation. But they’re damned careful not to produce too many babies from their own sexual activities (although occasionally some priest sins with a woman) – it must be why they much prefer raping boys to raping girls. Indeed they are parasites!
As for bridges, we’d be building bridges to nowhere. These people don’t want to talk to us. Don’t want to discuss. Don’t want to learn from us. They only want us as a convenient enemy on whom they can blame all their troubles – weren’t secularists to blame for their rapes back in the 80s and 90s?. That’s what’s wrong with accommodationism, the religiots don’t care to talk – only to condemn. We should never whiz off the front of the boat it just blows back on us!
Sex and death. If you can persuade people that you have control over these you have pretty much absolute power over them. Of all religious institutions the RCC seems to be the one which is most focused on empowering the hierarchy over the adherents. Protestant evangelism seems to be more about the money and political clout, and Islam more about maintaining a wider patriarchal dominance.
Of course not! If they’re taught about sex, they might know what it is that the priests are trying to do to them, and – God forbid – they might try to resist!
Bill Burr on overpopulation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUqp09N44QY