Darth Ratzinger
The previous pope was evil too.
In September 1990 he visited the town of Mwanza, in northern Tanzania, and gave a speech.
Tanzania, Uganda and the other countries surrounding Lake Victoria were then at the epicentre of HIV/AIDS, which was beginning its race down Africa’s highways to devastate every corner of the continent. Some nearby villages consisted only of the very old and very young, while rows and rows of wooden crosses marked the graves of others.
So the pope did his bit to help out in this nightmare situation.
He told his audience that condoms, then internationally accepted as the only real way to curtail the spread of the disease, especially in the developing world, were a sin in any circumstances. He lauded family values and praised fidelity and abstinence as the only true ways to combat the disease – seemingly ignorant of many traditional practices such as wives marrying the brothers of deceased husbands, a form of security in countries with no social services. AIDS activists, including many local African Catholics, were appalled. In that one afternoon, they said, the Vatican destroyed more than a decade of patient campaigning. Progress had been painfully slow, but awareness campaigns – with condom use the crucial component – were showing signs of having an effect. Age-old customs and habits were changing.
But then along came this evil, stupid, reckless, destructive, irresponsible, cruel, authoritarian godbothering fool to turn all that around. In that one afternoon, he sentenced whole churches full of women and children to death – and he got away with it. Nobody stopped him; no heavy hand fell on his shoulder; no cop told him to watch his head as he got in the back of the car; no ICC sent out an arrest warrant.
For many, the pope that day in Tanzania sentenced millions of Africans to death. Unabashed, he repeated the same message time and again as he moved on to neighbouring Rwanda and Burundi, countries then suffering an even higher HIV infection rate. “Thabo Mbeki (the former South African president) was pilloried for being an AIDS denialist, but the pope did much more damage and more or less got away with it,” said Godfrey Mubyazi from Tanzania.
And his successor is carrying on the work, and still getting away with it.
After the papal visit, the pandemic gathered pace. By 2010, it is now estimated, there will be 50million orphaned children in sub-Saharan Africa, 18 million of whose parents will have died from AIDS or AIDS-related illnesses. Today, more than 28 per cent of African children have lost one or both parents to AIDS. In 1990, at the time of the pope’s visit to Tanzania, the figure was 2 per cent…In communities from Lesotho to Liberia, people with wasted, emaciated bodies are waiting to die. Deprived of medical support, they are likely to suffer lonely, painful deaths.
And their children will suffer lonely, hungry lives and then perhaps the same painful deaths. Preventing such a fate for one person would be an obviously good thing to do; increasing the chances of such a fate for one person is an obviously wicked, loathsome thing to do. The pope is still doing his bit to promote illness and death. It’s beyond belief.
I dont mean to be pedantic but why is what is happening in Africa the popes fault? Africans pay no attention to his teachings about sex outside of marriage or any other moral teaching from the church regarding sexual behaviour. It seems that they only listen to him when he talks about condoms?
That doesnt excuse the pope for his idiotic stand on condoms by the way.
I suspect that it is REALLY hard to persuade African people to use condoms at all, and any ammunition that helps a male with a reason he can produce not to use one would be damaging.
There are a number of ‘cultural preferences’ in these matters that make straight HIV transmission far more likely than for heterosexuals there than in western societies. (I was told when I lived in Harare FWIW)
– promiscuity and prostitution are very widespread.
– married men travelling away from families to work (or just going to the pub) often are no exceptions.
– value placed on virginity means dry can be preferred which means both very severe discomfort and high likelihood of blood exchange.
– alternative route is favoured by straight men, results as above.
In a promiscuous and mobile society such as modern African countries appear to have, such cultural preferences (if true) gave HIV a running start in wiping out a generation or two.
It’s not just AIDS and other STDs, either: I blogged way back about the concerns of some people in the USA about how many young Catholics are topping themselves as a result of being made to feel guilty about their sexuality. The Catholic hierarchy is really just evil personified. If I believed in their mojo, I’d say they were the true spawn of Satan, sent to Earth to confound humankind.
Richard, the Pope’s stand on condoms is ‘ídiotic’ precisely because he talks as if he had come down in the last shower. Condoms are nowhere mentioned in the Bible, but a hell of a lot of God-sanctioned murder, rape and pillage is. It is no basis for a decent 21st C code of conduct. So basing one’s morality on this ancient and self-contradictory text leads to advocacy that could not be more arbitrary; or at variance with what is needed to control the AIDS epidemic; or with good public health practice.
The man is either a complete fool or just plain evil. Choose your pick. A lot of people will die in months and years to come because of what he has done. He clearly has either no conscience or a severely crippled one.
Come to think of it, Ian, contraception is not mentioned in the bible at all although such techniques would certainly have existed. Abortion (or rather violently induced miscarriage) is mentioned only once and seems to heve been regarded as a minor matter to be settled with a fine.
Richard, I nowhere said that what is happening in Africa is the pope’s fault. How the hell do you know what Africans pay attention to? Pedantic?! Hardly.
(Slightly more patiently…)
Look, Richard, read the post again and try to see what I actually said. There is a difference between saying ‘there was a bad situation in Africa and the pope made it worse’ and saying ‘what is happening in Africa is the pope’s fault.’ You can see the difference, right? It’s a fairly important one.
Richard, if you were fighting a kitchen fire and a neighbour showed up with a brimming bucket to fling onto the flames you would be justifiably annoyed if the bucket contained petrol rather than water.
It would not technically be arson (I could be wrong about that) but it would be culpable.
From what I have read more than 25 million people have died from AIDS since the early 1980’s, mostly in sub-Saharan Africa, and some 22.5 million Africans are living with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. It makes one shudder to have listen to the latest Cameroon, pope shenanigans.
Sorry I was unclear, the article you refered to (from the Australian) was what I was commenting on not your commentry. I thought the use of terms like sentence to death was o.t.t.
Among one the sins gravely contrary to chastity, is artificial contraception, and those who commit this particular sin are on the road leading to purgatory. It is no respector of AIDS victims.
Pope John Paul II – is no stranger to eugencis.
The famed detailed German paper trail kept during WWII included documents regarding the Pope when he was just a small town hick in Poland with delusions of grandeur and “war is money” priorities.
The records..in Polish and in German … state his childhood/best friend is the creator of the deadly gasses that slaughtered the victims in gas chambers.
Pope aka “Karol Józef Wojtyła” marketed/sold the chemical to the Nazi’s in the business partnership with his friend. Invoices and communications are on record and held in the massive archives documenting the transactions between them and the Nazis who gratefully purchased this “cheap” avenue to mass murder.
It was noted that Karol Józef Wojtyła fled into a monestary at the collapse of the war to avoid war crime charges, who quietly returned to public life attired in the collar of priesthood and clawed his way up the ladder of the Catholic church … unscathed by his “history” of war crimes.
It is no surprise of the tact and mindset he took regarding the millions dying from a global pandemic:
for him the virus “convenient” which is erpetuating yet another form of eugenics he was already party to in another era.
After all, Africa’s populations do not belong to that “superior race” of his ilks mindset.
Jeff Fritz Haber (a German jew)invented Zyclon B for use as a pesteside.