How to spot tyranny
Good old Nigeria, arresting 18 men for going to a party while (perhaps) being gay. That’s dangerous stuff; much more dangerous than, say, telling people that polio vaccines are part of a western plot to render Muslim women infertile.
There are vociferous local demands for the men to be stoned to death. At last week’s court hearing, an angry mob of Muslim homophobes assembled outside the court. They shouted anti-gay epithets and demanded that all 18 men be sentenced to death. Furious at the judge’s decision to opt for non-death penalty charges, they pelted the defendants with rocks as they left the court, attacked the police, and attempted to lynch the judge and to set the court building ablaze…
Sounds like a fun afternoon, doesn’t it?
Peter Tatchell points out some tensions:
Nigeria’s anti-sodomy laws contravene the anti-discrimination provisions of various African and UN human rights conventions that Nigeria has signed and pledged to uphold. These include the African charter on human and peoples’ rights, which came into force in 1986. It affirms the equality of all people, without discrimination. Similar provisions are included in the UN international covenant on civil and political rights to which Nigeria acceded in 1993…The persecution of gay Nigerians is symptomatic of a wider tyranny, which tramples on individual freedom and civil liberties, as documented by Human Rights Watch.
Whatever editor wrote the subhead for Tatchell’s article missed his point, and in fact subverted it. Whatever editor did that got things completely wrong, thus showing a depressing lack of understanding of the real problem.
This African country claims to be a democracy but its persecution of gay people is pure tyranny.
That’s stupid. Tatchell doesn’t mention democracy in the article, and that ‘but’ is no ‘but’ – it’s nonsense. Persecution of gay people is not somehow inherently the opposite of democracy; on the contrary, it’s a very tidy illustration of the danger of democracy, precisely because gay people are always a minority, and a pretty small one at that. It is perfectly possible to be both a democracy and a country that persecutes gay people. The tyranny in question is the tyranny of the majority.
In other news, US cable news talking head Tucker Carlson admitted last night to beating up a gay man who propositioned him in a public restroom.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200708290003
Just in case anyone still thought this sort of thing doesn’t happen here anymore.
Couple of dull points about the Nigerian electoral system –
Quite apart from being (according to a plethora of foreign observers, governments, human rights organisations) riddled with fraud, violence, etc, they use a single-member-constituency, first-past-the-post (i.e. British) model, which makes it far easier for single large groups, even if they are a minority of the electorate/votes cast, to dominate a parliament.
Also, the general election results from April this year still seem to be unavailable for scrutiny (unless my googling powers are waning) – I tried the Independent National Electoral Commission of Nigeria website, and all they have is the presidential vote.
http://www.inecnigeria.org/index.php
Sounds like a lovely place to do some oil business…
Weird that so many people appear to misunderstand the meaning of “democracy.” What drives me nuts is when it’s used as a synonym for capitalism. Please!
Clearly, religion is a febrile source of homophobia, but it probably predates theism, what with the need to reproduce back in those days. One would like to think that homophobia is virtually nonexistent among atheists. Does anyone know what the statistics are on this score?
I doubt there would be much differance Doug a lot of the reason for homophobia is the yuk reaction,that would probably be the same for atheists,agnostics and theists,I think it was O.B who wrote a great piece on people who want to legeslate against stuff that they have a yuck reaction to and using religion to justify their actions.
But did you expect any different in a mainstream UK forum, G?
Nice going, Tingey. Yet again you use B&W as a place to accuse people of lying, despite having been told in no uncertain terms NOT TO DO THAT approximately 500 times. Apparently you want to see TPM, Julian and Jeremy, B&W, and me ruined. Perhaps you’re a covert agent for the international theocratic conspiracy.
“Dark nights of the soul” as they were termed by St. John of the Cross-, are not a new idea to Roman Catholics. St. Therese of Lisieux, the 19th-century French Carmelite who was the namesake of Mother Teresa, seems to have died while enduring an experience of spiritual night that she likened to a dark tunnel.”
Yeah, I was – as well as Mother Teresa named by my mother after St Therese, [The Little Flower]. In addition, know very well too many dark nights of the soul that would be akin to dark tunnels. In addition, I certainly would not wish them upon my worst enemy. What terminology I wonder would atheists in general put on this these type of dark night experiences?
Taken from excellent Christopher Hitchen’s B&W News article.
OB, would that be the international theocratic conspiracy involving the Pope, Osama Bin Liner, and the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh?
or the other one?
Vaguely back on topic… scientific evidence suggests homosexual behaviour as naturally occurring in all social animals, and then you’ve got our close relatives, the Bonobos, to whom extremely frequent omnisexuality appears to be the norm, etc,etc
but
the only reference I could find to any behaviour that could be described as “homophobic” in animal groups was in white-tailed deer…???
Suspect old socio-biology (sorry, must remember to call it evolutionary psych now – soc-bio just ain’t cool) and some of its neo-functionalist excesses(be glad you never had to read Talcott Parsons. Empathy if you did…) aren’t going to be much help in determining “how” & “when” the “Yuk” factor in humans comes about…
One source even mentioned a video of “bachelor” male gorillas fellating each other…wonder what Sir David Attenborough would have said if they’d started doing that when he bumped up with his film crew…?
:-)
I am off to say a few Hail Mary’s before hitting the leaba. I think I will be needing them…Hmmm!
Oíche mhaith (duit) Good night Codladh sámh (duit) A pleasant sleep
Andy,
Sir David would have handled it with aplomb.
“Sir David would have handled it with aplomb.”
Whats a plomb?
The goverment should do something about that male gorilla behavior,its an abomination before God! what next gay pride parades for apes? think of the effect this must have on the children.
“Whats a plomb?”
It’s what he has, and you and I, alas, probably don’t.
“What’s aplomb” er U should ask Richard!