Read David Luban Instead
A reader wondered in comments why B&W hasn’t done more to protest Bush’s torture bill. There are items on it in News, I pointed out. It’s also true that if you type ‘torture’ into B&W’s ‘Search’ you’ll get a lot of items, some of which are about FGM or ‘witchcraft’-related torture in Africa or India, but many of which are about Bush & co. Then there’s the fact that I only have two hands, as the saying goes, and I’m a bit pressed for time right now, and there are a lot of subjects to cover. But having said all that, I have been wanting to mutter something (but have also felt inadequate to the task), or rather squawk something or bark something or howl something or yell in a cracked but deafening voice something. What can I say? That it’s a shameful spectacle, Bush going to Congress to lobby for a torture bill. But who doesn’t already know that?
See David Luban in Slate for adequate muttering.
The Nuremberg Principles, like the entire body of international humanitarian law, will now have no purchase in the war-crimes law of the United States. Who cares whether they were our idea in the first place? Principle VI of the Nuremberg seven defines war crimes as “violations of the laws or customs of war, which include, but are not limited to…ill-treatment of prisoners of war.” Forget “customs of war” – that sounds like customary international law, which has no place in our courts anymore. Forget “ill-treatment” – it’s too vague. Take this one: Principle II, “The fact that internal law does not impose a penalty for an act which constitutes a crime under international law does not relieve the person who committed the act from responsibility under international law.” Section 8(a)(2) sneers at responsibility under international law.
The Bush administration started sneering at international law almost as soon as it took office. I suppose that’s one reason its reported 90% approval rating right after September 11 has always surprised me. So it goes.
Thanks for responding to my comment. You mention the parts of the bill that authorize torture, the worst of it is these are maybe not the worst of it.
The torture part of the bill is bad, real bad. What’s just as bad, maybe even worse, is that bush has suspendended habeas corpus even for US citizens. Not that it’s morally better to deny Habeas corpus right’s to non citizens than it is to citizens but not including a exception for citizens is politically scarier because it gives Bush even greater illict power.)
This bill which has been passed, barring judical nullification which might well happen, in effect allows Bush to detain anyone, US citizen or not, indefinitely. Elections are practically the sole bar to his power.
What is the value of “international law”, when the most powerful nation (and others, when the mood takes them) refuses to recognise it?
Being boringly realistic, Law without enforcement or jurisdiction is worth even less than an American vice-presidency (as characterised by John Nance Garner), isn’t it?
I know, about habeas. Cf two hands prob. It’s in News though.
What these idiots fail to realise, ist taht if you think you can get away with it.
The other side (whoever they are) will also get away with it.
“But you’ve held a US citizen without any charge!”
“You’re holding our citizens without any charge – tu quoque….”