You Have to Respect
Kofi Annan joins the unseemly rush to tell us what we may not say.
Annan condemned the drawings, first published in a Danish newspaper, as “insensitive and rather offensive,” and also denounced the violent reactions in some Muslim countries. He said the drawings, one of which shows Muhammad wearing a turban shaped like a bomb, could be seen as vilifying a religion with more than 1 billion adherents.
So what? What’s the one billion got to do with anything? What is that other than moral blackmail? Number of adherents is not necessarily a good index of quality or merit, let alone of truth or rational credibility. If Nazism had one billion adherents (as perhaps in fact it does, though under other names), would that make it something we should respect or keep politely quiet about?
Annan said he defends free speech, but insisted “it has to come with some sense of responsibility and judgment and limits. There are times when you have to challenge taboos,” he said. “But you don’t fool around with other people’s religions and you have to respect what is sacred to other people.”
No, you don’t. No, you do not ‘have’ to respect what is ‘sacred’ to other people. It depends what it is, just for a start. If other people hold a small depression in the ground sacred, you may choose to respect that, if you’re in a forgiving mood, but you don’t ‘have’ to. But there sure are a lot of people – well-meaning people, many of them – running around telling us we do have to. Good thing there is also PEN.
Philip Pullman and Nicholas Hytner are leading a campaign to repeal blasphemy laws after the Government’s failure to outlaw “abusive and insulting” criticism of religion…Pullman, who wrote about the death of God in The Amber Spyglass, told The Times that the blasphemy laws had no place in modern Britain. “Exactly the wrong response would be to extend them to cover other religions. Where would you stop?” he asked. “The right response would be to repeal them altogether and let religion, like every other form of human thought, take its chance in free, open debate.”
Where, indeed, would you stop? Would every single system of irrational ideas be off-limits while all the rational ones were left out in the hailstorm? What would be the justification for that? What is the justification for it now? Evidence-free beliefs must be protected while reasonable, evidence-based beliefs must and need not? Why is that a good idea?
The idea that respect is a right is an odd idea anyway, unless respect is defined in a fairly minimal way. But of course it never is defined when people are ordering us to exercise it toward religion – it’s used to mean anything from silence to groveling.
Respect is not a right…Yet all the terrifying Muslim uprisings across the world in response to the Danish cartoons have all been about a demand for respect, as of right. They are demanding respect for religion, or at any rate for their own religion and their own religious sensibilities. The same is true of the more moderate demonstrations in London yesterday. Worse, many westerners are penitentially admitting that Muslims do indeed have a right to respect for their faith, and that it is wrong to express disrespect for a religion. This is disastrous.
Exactly; it is disastrous. It shores up (and rams home) this idea that religion is Special and should get special treatment at all times. Well, why is it special? How long have I been asking that question now – two years? Longer? I don’t know, but at any rate, I haven’t seen a convincing answer yet, and I have been looking for one. I begin to suspect there may not be one.
“What is being called for,” said Faiz Siddiqi, the committee’s convenor, “is a change of culture. In any civilised society, if someone says, ‘don’t insult me’, you do not, out of respect for them.”…First of all there is a tendentious conflation of respect for one’s religion and respect for oneself. It may be true that in traditional Muslim thought a perceived insult to the Prophet is an insult to the believer, but in western culture there is a crucially important – and highly prized – distinction. Freedom of speech depends on people accepting that criticism of a belief, even aggressive, satirical or offensive criticism, is not necessarily intended to insult a person or an ethnic community.
Clearly. Because without that distinction, no criticism, and hence no thought, is possible. Ruling out criticism and thought is not a good plan. I’m against it.
AAAAGGHH!!! Just read an article in the Dec ’05 Atlantic by Paul Bloom, who argues that we may be not be theists when we’re born, but we quickly become dualists and that religion is unlikely to go away soon. Did a search here at B&W and found this so you already know about him. Good work.
Bummer, eh?
That is some really muddled thinking by Annan.
“There are times when you have to challenge taboos” – but don’t “fool around” with someone’s religion or disrespect what is sacred to them.
So how, exactly, do we challenge taboos without upsetting someone, somewhere?
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Hmm.
Subtext: “I respect their right to not tolerate me.” ?
I think this whole thread is misisnig the point:
“What is being called for,” said Faiz Siddiqi, the committee’s convenor, “is a change of culture. In any civilised society, if someone says, ‘don’t insult me’, you do not, out of respect for them.”…
In what way was Siddiqi or any other Muslim insulted? Cartoons of Muhammed do not insult any living person. There is no need here to elide the distinction between a person and his beliefs.
Or as Franco Frattini (European Commissioner for justice, freedom and security) put it, recently:
“We are aware of the consequences of exercising the right of free expression, we can and we are ready to self-regulate that right”.
On Wednesday, the European Parliament will discuss the introduction of a “code of conduct” restricting free speech on religious matters.
EU and “code of conduct”
The International Federation of Journalists (IFJ) has rejected reports – first covered on EUpolitix – that new rules covering media coverage of religion and Islam could be on the way.
“We have already made it clear to Brussels officials that this will be unacceptable to everyone in media and they have agreed to encourage a professional dialogue but not to start drawing up codes or guidelines.”
http://www.eupolitix.com/EN/News/200602/83041a0d-8b56-484d-99c8-8ac53d84235e.htm
Canadian newspapers have reported an E.U. statement in support of a U.N. prohibition of blasphemy to prevent a recurrence of the cartoon controversy.
I don’t understand. Does this allow me to say “I don’t believe in God” but have me prosecuted if I say “There is no God?” Or can I not even express my own lack of belief?
Good idea, Pierre. One idea – there’s that Petition Online thing. You could do that.
A UN prohibition of blasphemy – Christ almighty. No, let me rephrase that – pimply tedious smelly unfunny Christ almighty. Come and get me, you craven stupid bastards.
Paul,
Well, to be fair, this thread may be missing one of the points, but there are so many points in this subject, we kind of have to split them up and deal with them one at a time. And I did talk about exactly the point you mention in an earlier N&C – ‘Demands’ – thus –
“If you’re polite and reasonably kind, you don’t insult people. But in any civilised society, if someone says, ‘don’t insult Jesus’ or ‘don’t insult Spock’ or ‘don’t insult Aphrodite’ or ‘don’t insult Loki’ then that’s different. Siddiqi is confusing two completely different kinds of insult. That confusion of course is pervasive, and is a tool of coercion. But one could use the same logic about anything and everything, with the outcome that I keep pointing out: total mental paralysis.”
I’ve also been wanting to talk about it more, but there are only so many hours in the day. But it is a really terrible idea, that a cartoon about quasi-mythical party X is an insult to completely different other unrelated people.
Ophelia:
I hope my point did not come across as angry. I just think we need to hold the line – everywhere – that however wrong it is to insult a person, it is never wrong to insult a person’s beliefs. If someone chooses to be offended by an attack on his beliefs, that is his problem. If we can be consistent on this then we have a chance of winning both the argument and the battle. On the other hand if we allow the distinction to be blurred we will definitely lose, at least in the short term, because there is a powerful tendency in Europe to curtail freedom to “protect” people – as in last night’s votes in the UK parliament to ban smoking evne in private clubs.
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Dead wrong about what smoking thing, GT, where? What on earth are you talking about?
No no Paul, didn’t come across as angry, not at all. I was just pointing out I hadn’t actually overlooked that aspect. Not, I think, for ego reasons (for a change) but because the problem of thoroughness bugs me every time I write one of these comments. It really does. This subject has so many branching ramifying kinds of mistaken thinking, which are so pervasive and so disastrously influential, one wants to nail down each one every time – but that would be unreadable, and a time-sink, so one doesn’t; and one is irritated by the bits left implicit.
Thanks Ophelia. Your point about ramifications is well taken.
Ophelia: The metaphorical bullet you took on smoking was meant for me. Apologies.
Oh, right, I see it now, Paul; thanks.
[coff coff, GT – oh never mind]