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Wait, hold on – something has just crossed my tiny mind. These cartoons – that are so ‘offensive’ because they are cartoons of Mohammed – how do the people who are so offended know they are cartoons of Mohammed? There aren’t, like, photographs of him, right? Not to mention the fact that it’s a no-no to make pictures of him anyway, so that if there were photos of him, they’d all have been thrown away by now. But surely it’s much more likely that they weren’t taken in the first place, and that drawings, paintings, watercolours, engravings, etchings, and silhouettes were not made either. And even if they had been they’d probably be pretty dilapidated by now. Pretty crumbly and curly at the edges and faded – at best. And then who knows how accurate the artists would have been, if they had taken any likenesses, which they probably didn’t, on account of how it was taboo (as we keep being reminded, because we’re so likely to forget, with all this shouting going on)? So – let’s face it – nobody knows what the guy looked like. It was fourteen hundred years ago after all. It’s like Jesus. People think they know what he looked like, but they don’t really – they know what Raphael and Rembrandt and people like that thought he looked like. But they didn’t know, see, so that doesn’t help. There’s not, like, an unbroken chain of accurate portrayals of Jesus going all the way back to 35 CE, is there. Same deal with the prophet. Nobody knows what the guy looked like. No idea. Now I know what you’re thinking – well he looked like the cartoons! Mediterranean, bearded, kind of burly (because he was a powerful guy), kind of impressive-looking, a mensch – dark hair, big features – kind of like – oh, Anthony Quinn, say. Well no doubt you’re right, but I have to tell you, we don’t actually know that. Seriously. Nobody does. (Don’t forget the taboo thing.)
So what I’m wondering is, why on earth do all these offended people think the cartoons are of Mohammed? Because the cartoonists said so? Because they have, like, ‘Mohammed’ scribbled somewhere along the edge or on the bottom? Because of the pose and the turban? Well – that’s not much of a reason! I can do that! I can draw a picture of a dog or a cat or a bag of carrots or a teapot (no, not the one that orbits the sun, a different one) and say it’s a drawing of Mohammed, but what good does that do? Me just saying it’s Mohammed doesn’t make it Mohammed, does it. So why does a cartoonist saying it’s Mohammed make it Mohammed?
Now that I’ve had my fun, that’s actually a serious question, as well as a mocking one. Really – why do all the offended people accept that the cartoons are of Mohammed? Because a bunch of non-Muslim Danish cartoonists say they are? But how would they know? And what are they, magic? They can transform a drawing of some generic bearded guy in a turban into a representation of a specific person who died fourteen centuries ago? How? By saying so, by writing his name underneath, by the context of the jokes. But that still doesn’t make the cartoons cartoons of the actual Mohammed – not for people who just don’t accept that that’s what they are. Why don’t all the infuriated Muslims just laugh and shrug and ignore the whole thing? Why don’t they just say ‘those goofy Danish cartoonists, pretending they’ve drawn pictures of Mohammed – like they have any idea what he looked like. I’m so sure’? Why don’t they just say ‘you guys don’t know what Mohammed looked like any more than we do, and probably less (because we have this like inner intuition, which is denied to non-Muslims), so dream on – draw your stupid little pictures if you want to, we don’t care, it’s nothing to do with us’?
Actually the whole taboo is empty, it’s a taboo without a referent. It’s like a taboo on walking on water, or a taboo on sleeping on the wing of a jet plane when it’s in flight. Nobody can make a representation of Mohammed, it’s quite, quite impossible – so why worry about it? Just making representations of a man and naming them Mohammed doesn’t make them Mohammed – so why on earth worry about it?
Because the cartoons were a provocation, were meant to offend, and so on and so on. Hmm. Not really. The shouting is all about the guy himself, and how terribly terribly forbidden it all is. So – why don’t they just wake up and realize that those cartoons are not Mohammed, not in any way, because they can’t be? Why not just laugh at the pretensions of cartoonists and forget all about it?
This occurred to me while looking at the cartoons on Groep Wilders’s blog. Surely it must have occurred to a lot of people. Those are just lines on paper. We all have to buy into the idea that they are cartoons of Mohammed; otherwise they just stay lines on paper. Why buy into the idea if you don’t like it then? Very odd, people are – we believe our own lies.
It would be sensible if the islamic scholars would provide us non-muslims with a picture of ‘the prophet’ just in case we or our children inadvertantly make a drawing that is an exact likeness and get into trouble.
Otherwise, how would we know?
Or can we we now take it that the ‘fizzing bomb’ cartoon, is, by some miracle, (allah be praised) an exact likeness, so all others must be ok because they are not?
It’s pretty easy, actually. If you want to avoid offending just stay clear of any representations of living things. After all, that’s what Islamic law demands.
It just reminds me of the childish game where you draw a line with your toe on the ground and say ‘If you cross that line I’ll hit you’.
If Muslims decide that Mohammed cannot be portrayed (I understand the Koran has nothing to say about the matter) then I’m happy for them not to do so. But why should that affect the rest of us? After all Jews don’t riot and issue death threats when the rest of us shop on Saturdays do they?
The old phrase ‘cutting off ones nose to spite ones face’ springs to mind…
Sorry Ophelia – I’m reading your entries backwards and didn’t realise you’d already made a similar point in your earlier posting.
Ophelia, that is a beautiful, beautiful thought.
I just wish someone would point it out to the crowds of protestors. What would they have to do then? Just shrug their shoulders and wander off home, muttering to themselves, I suppose.
But then, I often wonder about similar things like why does a tatty old guitar worth – at most – a few hundred quid suddenly become worth thousands just because Jimi Henderix once owned it?
Why does a painting by an old master worth millions suddenly become near worthless because it is discovered to be a forgery?
We still – it seems – believe in magic.
Hmm, so does that mean there are no images anywhere in the world of Jesus? Or of Zeus? Or that the Sistine Chapel ceiling doesn’t depict God and Adam?
Surely I can set out to draw a picture, whether realistically or satirically, of someone whose actual appearance is long forgotten or whose existence is dubious/fictional. It’s the artist’s intention that determines what it is that is depicted, regardless of likeness (e.g. generic stick-figures outside a generic house = me and mummy and daddy).
I think the point about images ‘of’ Mohammed, in whatever sense you understand the ‘of’, is that one isn’t supposed to encourage people to conceive of what he looked like as a man himself, for fear of giving rise to the idolatrous worship of the messenger.
And this, it seems to me, is part of why the current furore is so odd: is is really all that likely that these cartoons are going to act as tools for worshipping Mohammed? Are any Muslims really going to be kneeling before Danish newspaper cuttings?
Sorry, lost a sentence there somehow. After “messenger.” in the penultimate paragraph:
This applies to depiction in principle, rather than based on accuracy, as idolatry is frowned on regardless of the quality of the image.
The BBC analysis claims that the prime reason for the outrage is because of the association of Mohammed and thus the whole Islamic faith with terrorism:
“It is the satirical intent of the cartoonists, and the association of the Prophet with terrorism, that is so offensive to the vast majority of Muslims.”
With this in mind i consider the Islamic response to the cartoons…..
bomb threats, Gunmen roaming hotels looking for hostages, taking over the EU offices, burning flags, death threats etc… and immediatly realise that the Muslims have a perfectly reasonable point and Islam has no coutenance with any form of terrorism.
Steve and OB: i think the BBC analysis is probably a more accurate view of the situation than the controversy over images of Mohammad. I’m not Mulsim but it pisses the hell out of me that people don’t realise that Muslims generally are not terrorists. If i were Muslim, I would be offended at this implication.
–IP
“With this in mind i consider the Islamic response to the cartoons…..
bomb threats, Gunmen roaming hotels looking for hostages, taking over the EU offices, burning flags, death threats etc… and immediatly realise that the Muslims have a perfectly reasonable point and Islam has no coutenance with any form of terrorism.”
To be fair it is only a small number of Muslims doing these things.
The crazy minority though are truly crazy. They remind me a bit of conspiracy theory types. Watching Newsnight last night it was funny to see the Chowdry guy moan about the slander that they had been inciting violence on their march, then claiming that their placards were perfectly ok because they’d been seen by police – despite us having just seen the placards on his march advocating beheadings. I think his point was that it is ok because they want to behead Danes rather than British people, and that this is a distinction we ought to be happy about.
[its available on the website at the mo’:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/default.stm
]
I had the exact same thought on my blog http://skorohnomis.blogspot.com/ last Monday! haha!
I was thinking along similar lines the other day.
The only thing that makes them cartoons of mohammed is someone saying that they’re mohammed. Ergo, the imams who claimed the French pig-squealing contest pic was a cartoon of mohammed themselves, by dint of saying it’s mohammed, created an image of mohammed as a pig. Therefore, since they actually follow those ludicrous rules, shouldn’t they be beheaded?
It’s actually a more acute question than the writer realises. According to a Danish writer, Jutta Klausen, writing in Prospect magazine (www.prospect-magazine.co.uk) a month or two ago, the caricature with a turban and a bomb in it has the face of Imam Abu Laban, the radical Danish cleric who touted those cartoons around the Middle East. It seems to have been an attempt at a satire against him, though the humour seems to have somewhat passed most of Denmark’s (and the world’s) Muslims by.
It sounds like you’re trying to create some sort of logical theology from Islam. Good fucking luck.
Anyway, the problem wasn’t the depiction of Big Mo anyway, what offended all of those Muslims was the idea of uppity infidels, “Enemies of God” as they call us in their sermons, not knowing our place.
It’s not about Mohammad, it’s about status and the fact that OUR status is supposed to be somewhere lower than dogs.
That’s not quite literally correct. Our status as infidels is supposed to be much lower than women but perhaps higher than dogs.
as i hav read comments of different people on such a sensitive issue(of course for muslims)i really have a mind totally on fire.all these people do not no about there own religions even so how r they in a position to comment about islam, i can say this based on solid facts coz i no that other than islam also no religion out there allows and instructs all that is going on in the west in present times.all these commentators r doomed themselves by being indulged in the worst rated activities, lowest morals nd no ethics nd they r trying to speculate on islam.they should go nd study thier own religion atleast nd save themselves 4m even more destruction(of course just to some extent but the only religion which can fully save them is islam)islam nd terrorism,wat the hell do they want to show that islam teaches terrorism.No,No,No…just look at america who is fully indulged in lust 4 power is killing so many nations at a time ; look at the no. of local crime there nd so much more about america itself nd the no. of other countries which r nt islamic but r too much into crime nd harming others y r they nt considered terrorist y islamic countries only.nd even if v look at the picture with a different angle the image of islam to be teaching terrorism is totally false ;if ratio of rape is very high in hindus, christians,jews or any other religion shud v start associating it with the teachings of the religion no of course not,its about other contributing factors.
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