decide that your time is far more well spent attacking trans women rather than fighting to end rape culture, to end the gender pay gap, to end period poverty or any other real issue.
So you, as a ClS woman in case anyone wasn’t aware of that, decide that your time is far more well spent attacking trans women…
Or, to translate, “your time is far more well spent defending women by keeping men from invading women’s single-sex spaces, facilities, positions, and opportunities….”
Sounds like a real issue to me, and it does in fact touch on ending rape culture (remember the cotton ceiling?), the pay gap (by keeping men like “Pippa” Bunce out of women only awards and positions) and period poverty by reminding everyone that ONLY WOMEN AND GIRLS HAVE PERIODS.
What’s a planing victim anyway, someone who’s been injured boarding an aircraft?
I was thinking more of some accident in a woodworking shop.
I’m pretty sure “planing victim” was a typo for “playing victim”.
I doubt their concept of “TERF” requires that the target be a feminist of any description, regardless of the expansion of the acronym. Just people who reject the claims of trans dogma. Ted Cruz is probably a “TERF”, by their accounting. (I don’t think Cruz has fought much for the rights of women, but he has been remarkably cogent on this one issue. Kara Dansky has written well about it.) So maybe “people who reject the claims of trans dogma” is approximately equally men and women, and maybe the Ted Cruzes of the world have not generally supported the rights of women.
I forget the name of the fallacy where they assume all of their opponents are alike and agree with each other on everything. Clearly there are people on the political left who would agree with Cruz on this one thing and little else.
I hate arguments that “helpfully” suggest better uses of time. People can do multiple things. These complainers don’t really give a crap whether you do these other things, just that you stop work in this one area they care about.
There’s also some sort of labelling fallacy going on here. Perhaps ‘TERFs’ qua ‘TERFs’ have done nothing for women’s rights. It’s like saying people who are 5′ 71/2″ have done nothing for women’s rights which is trivially true in the sense that no one identifies as being 5′ 71/2″ and if they did it would be a bizarre banner to march under a at women’s right rally. That sort of criticism simply doesn’t work against a label no matter who is doing the labelling. But, of course, the idea that it does is a part with the silly idea that every cause should simultaneously be about every cause “I” care about.
Come to think of it @1, there aren’t any feminists who are trans. So there are feminists, but not ones who “identify as.” Even the trans “women” who oppose trans athletes (like Jenner) are still reinforcing the female stereotype. “Dress however you like…” and all that, but clearly feminism can’t include men. I wonder if anyone can be a feminist without being gender critical. I’m sure this reeks of ‘no true Scotsman’ but isn’t it a matter of definition?
Yawn. The ability to distinguish between women and men is a precondition for everything else that feminism cares about, whether that’s pay or healthcare or education or sports or literally anything. I don’t focus on women’s abortion rights at the moment, because I can’t. It’s an analytic a priori impossibility.
And who cares about the gender demographics of TERFs? Considering FARTs (feminism appropriating radical transhumanists) apply the label to pretty much everyone who disagrees with their bullshit, I’d actually be unsurprised to see roughly equal representation. After all, men and women have the same capacity for rationality. It’s the other side that maintains the idea of blue and pink brains.
What a Maroon, just imagine how wonderful it would be if, rather than simply enforcing an arbitrary ToS, the Twitter algorithm and moderators were acting as agents on behalf of a Ministry of Truth, determining the legal extent of “misinformation”. Surely it is a hope not forlorn.
I think the TERF planing was a very bad attempt to play on mansplaining. Still incoherent. I’d also like to see any significant evidence of the trans activist crowd actually doing anything practical to reduce violence and rape against anyone, let alone women and girls. We have of course lots of video of trans activists attacking meetings of women who are actively working in that space.
Also using ‘whilst’ when while will do. Or is that an English thing?
It is, yes, though not commonly used by most of us Brits these days.. However, I found the following question/reply on an archived page from The Guardian’s ‘Notes and Queries’ section.
What is the difference between while and whilst? Dr Michael Ford, London.
Hoad’s etymology gives ‘whilst’ as a derivation of ‘whiles’, an adverbial form of ‘while’. The ‘t’ on the end is parasitic (cf. among~amongst, amid~amidst, etc.). ‘Whilst’ started to be used as a conjunction, equivalent to ‘while’, in the 13th century.
In modern British English, ‘whilst’ is supposedly a more formal variant of ‘while’. It is also, in my experience, particularly beloved of students who write bad essays. Dominic Watt, Department of Linguistics & Phonetics, University of Leeds.
That final sentence seems particularly apposite to the tweet from the LGBTQ twonks.
Visibility limited: this Post may violate X’s rules against Hateful Conduct.”
Ok where’s the hateful conduct?
Elon Musk has apparently banned any use of the word “cis.” It’s automatic, the person you’re responding to probably got the same message.
You can get away with c*s. Most of the complaints I’ve seen are from those who justify it as legitimate and not “hateful.” Some GC are celebrating this.
In modern British English, ‘whilst’ is supposedly a more formal variant of ‘while’. It is also, in my experience, particularly beloved of students who write bad essays.
And sometimes that carries across the pond, all the way to the center of North America, where students in Nebraska include it in their bad essay writing. In many cases, though, I suspect that comes from an overuse of cut and paste from the internet, without changing much in their paper.
Are any groups of feminists 50% men? I doubt it.
See the compounding of TERF with CIS. Both derogatory, both transpeak. What have feminists who aren’t trans done for women? Everything.
What’s a planing victim anyway, someone who’s been injured boarding an aircraft?
‘Dear Muslima…’
Or, to translate, “your time is far more well spent defending women by keeping men from invading women’s single-sex spaces, facilities, positions, and opportunities….”
Sounds like a real issue to me, and it does in fact touch on ending rape culture (remember the cotton ceiling?), the pay gap (by keeping men like “Pippa” Bunce out of women only awards and positions) and period poverty by reminding everyone that ONLY WOMEN AND GIRLS HAVE PERIODS.
I was thinking more of some accident in a woodworking shop.
It’s probably supposed to be “TERFsplaining”.
I’m pretty sure “planing victim” was a typo for “playing victim”.
I doubt their concept of “TERF” requires that the target be a feminist of any description, regardless of the expansion of the acronym. Just people who reject the claims of trans dogma. Ted Cruz is probably a “TERF”, by their accounting. (I don’t think Cruz has fought much for the rights of women, but he has been remarkably cogent on this one issue. Kara Dansky has written well about it.) So maybe “people who reject the claims of trans dogma” is approximately equally men and women, and maybe the Ted Cruzes of the world have not generally supported the rights of women.
I forget the name of the fallacy where they assume all of their opponents are alike and agree with each other on everything. Clearly there are people on the political left who would agree with Cruz on this one thing and little else.
I hate arguments that “helpfully” suggest better uses of time. People can do multiple things. These complainers don’t really give a crap whether you do these other things, just that you stop work in this one area they care about.
There’s also some sort of labelling fallacy going on here. Perhaps ‘TERFs’ qua ‘TERFs’ have done nothing for women’s rights. It’s like saying people who are 5′ 71/2″ have done nothing for women’s rights which is trivially true in the sense that no one identifies as being 5′ 71/2″ and if they did it would be a bizarre banner to march under a at women’s right rally. That sort of criticism simply doesn’t work against a label no matter who is doing the labelling. But, of course, the idea that it does is a part with the silly idea that every cause should simultaneously be about every cause “I” care about.
Come to think of it @1, there aren’t any feminists who are trans. So there are feminists, but not ones who “identify as.” Even the trans “women” who oppose trans athletes (like Jenner) are still reinforcing the female stereotype. “Dress however you like…” and all that, but clearly feminism can’t include men. I wonder if anyone can be a feminist without being gender critical. I’m sure this reeks of ‘no true Scotsman’ but isn’t it a matter of definition?
And awful at writing too:
Portraying should be claiming or stating, and a superfluous that to boot.
@7 Also using ‘whilst’ when while will do. Or is that an English thing?
It is, yes.
Well, it’s a good thing we’ve got Elon Musk to defend our freedom of speech.
Yawn. The ability to distinguish between women and men is a precondition for everything else that feminism cares about, whether that’s pay or healthcare or education or sports or literally anything. I don’t focus on women’s abortion rights at the moment, because I can’t. It’s an analytic a priori impossibility.
And who cares about the gender demographics of TERFs? Considering FARTs (feminism appropriating radical transhumanists) apply the label to pretty much everyone who disagrees with their bullshit, I’d actually be unsurprised to see roughly equal representation. After all, men and women have the same capacity for rationality. It’s the other side that maintains the idea of blue and pink brains.
What a Maroon, just imagine how wonderful it would be if, rather than simply enforcing an arbitrary ToS, the Twitter algorithm and moderators were acting as agents on behalf of a Ministry of Truth, determining the legal extent of “misinformation”. Surely it is a hope not forlorn.
They haven’t got the moron filter worked out yet, but that would eliminate over half the users, not to mention Musk himself. :P
I think the TERF planing was a very bad attempt to play on mansplaining. Still incoherent. I’d also like to see any significant evidence of the trans activist crowd actually doing anything practical to reduce violence and rape against anyone, let alone women and girls. We have of course lots of video of trans activists attacking meetings of women who are actively working in that space.
twiliter, #8:
It is, yes, though not commonly used by most of us Brits these days.. However, I found the following question/reply on an archived page from The Guardian’s ‘Notes and Queries’ section.
That final sentence seems particularly apposite to the tweet from the LGBTQ twonks.
https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-5498,00.html
Elon Musk has apparently banned any use of the word “cis.” It’s automatic, the person you’re responding to probably got the same message.
You can get away with c*s. Most of the complaints I’ve seen are from those who justify it as legitimate and not “hateful.” Some GC are celebrating this.
Frankly, I think it’s unfair censorship anyway.
Thanks for that AoS, interesting!
And sometimes that carries across the pond, all the way to the center of North America, where students in Nebraska include it in their bad essay writing. In many cases, though, I suspect that comes from an overuse of cut and paste from the internet, without changing much in their paper.