To go around clucking
Ah yes, “clucking” – women don’t talk or argue, we “cluck.” Why is that? Because we’re stupid like chickens, obviously; because when we try to talk all that comes out is an irritating repetitive noise.
Also, of course, his claim is just wrong. Lots of trans women do insist – with menaces – that they are women in every sense, that they are women period end of story, that they are women and we had better not say otherwise if we don’t want our lives ruined.
“Inhumane”. Once again the call to deny reality in the name of kindness. It’s as if we’re slipping back to the Victorian era where so much couldn’t be said for fear of upsetting the ladies’ delicate sensibilities. The fantasy of the delicate flower which will wilt in the harsh light of the truth is as dangerous as it is insidious.
@FrancisBoyle
It’s mind boggling coming from anyone in the skepic community given that skeptics are often treated like a bunch of rude killjoys for disagreeing with many peoples sincerely held beliefs about things like astrology or alternative medicine.
That cyclist person – V. Ivy still? – was on The Daily Show and claimed to be female.
Hasn’t India W. stated that he did, in fact, change his sex?
The issue is that there are males who identify as women who are also insisting on using female spaces and services. To make it all about the feelings of said males is unfair to those women who do not want males around them in said female spaces. This also applies to males identifying as women who want to compete in female sport.
Not only has India claimed that, and not only has he claimed to have anatomical structures he can’t possibly have (e.g. a cervix), he has even claimed to be more female than actual women:
https://twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1617183552101048321
“I’m more of a woman than JK Rowling will ever be.”
https://twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1680880392461508608
“Biology absolutely changes. My body chemistry is more female than Martina’s. My anatomy is female.”
And I’m a real clucking giraphphe.! It’s time all those clucking nitwits took clucking stock of that. And the key that brings up the single letter giving the ‘ph’ sound is stuck on my keyboard, so this is the best I can do. Some would say ‘ph*ck it,’ but I won’t.
Damnit, I had gone several years without thinking about DJ Grothe.
If they know which sex they are, why is it “inhumane” to talk about it?
I’ve always wished I could fly, but I’m not gonna go to pieces if reminded that I’m human and humans don’t have wings. I’m not five years old.
It never ceases to amaze me how many people who claim to be deeply involved in the cause for trans rights insist that the most outrageous and offensive TRA talking points, like lesbians who won’t have sex with TIMs are “sexual racists”, or TIMs become biologically female, aren’t things that we’re told we have to accept. The same way minors don’t get surgeries or irreversible hormone treatments.
VanitysFiend:
I think … I think that may be a major subconscious reason for so-called skeptics’ vociferous support for Genderism. It’s a way to shape their self-conception in opposition to the accusation of rude killjoyness, because hardly anyone actually wants to think of him- or herself as a rude killjoy. Being on the trans train means that you’re kind, and that’s something these people want to believe about themselves.
Our identities in the existentialist sense, the stories our minds tell us that link together all our experiences, are more shoddily constructed than we imagine. There are drafts and leaks all throughout, and much of our behavior is motivated by a need to patch those spots. A tension between how we want to perceive ourselves and how we think others perceive us is just the sort of thing that calls for mending. If you aren’t already 100% sure that you’re kind, and you want to believe that you are, then doing something that others call kind is a means of getting yourself to believe in your own kindness. And once you do, you’re not going to be really convinced to let go of the thing that bolstered your view of yourself.
NiV, I also think it’s in part because anything the religious are opposed to is automatically right. I’ve seen that in FFRF a couple of times to my dismay. Even the worst religious nutjob could very well have some insight into something, or could accidentally get it right.