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But this is a very healthy, reasonable, compassionate movement.
Definitely. If you grew up with a violent father – if you were groped or raped by a man in childhood or adolescence – if you were raped in high school or at university – if you’ve been mocked and bullied by men at parties or in bars or on trains or on the street – or anything else along those lines – suck it up, bitch, we’re going to be in all your spaces whether you like it or not. No locks on the door for you, slut.
Pot calling the kettle black? If you’re uncomfortable with your sex, whether due to trauma, other mental illness, or the rigid roles that society prescribes for the sexes, perhaps go and see a fucking therapist instead of weaponising it against an entire class of innocent people [i.e. women] and invading their space?
The logical conclusion is that women’s spaces shouldn’t exist at all. So why try to gain access to a space you don’t think should exist?
This is the same end result you get from letting TiMs compete in women’s sport. Only the first cheaters get the advantage; once more TiMs fill up the team or league, it stops being fun for the cheaters, and it’s not women’s sport anymore. No affirmation from other TiMs,, either. After all, how many TiM “lesbians” end up dating each other?
When I started peaking, there were many stories of how lesbian specific bars were being taken over by trans ID males, or threatened with boycotts if they did’t accept such as lesbians and let them in. Many shut down either due to the boycotts, or the fact that the owners were losing their core business: lesbians.
Joss will never concede that women as a sex need to have spaces away from men, because he doesn’t believe in woman as a sex only as an identity.
There are plenty of people “dealing with trauma” who are also able to have empathy for the feelings of other people, “Joss”. You should give it a try some time.
(I would have tweeted that to him, but I’m on the twitter BlockBot list, to which he subscribes.)
#5, and while I hate the idea of comparing trauma (oh, he has it so much worse, why are you depressed?), I have to say that some women have a lot more traumatic history than being a young male who had the doll taken out of his hand while he was looking up its skirt, and was given a ball instead. “Boys toy”, Mama says firmly. “Dolls are for girls.”
I thought the correct procedure for dealing with “trauma” was to call your support person, your mother and your dog.
I’m pretty sure the whole point of claiming the space is to render it unavailable/non-existent for those who refuse to use it. with men present; and to rub the male presence in the faces of those traumatised women who still do use it – because where else would they go?. It’s very horrible behaviour, but there you go.