What Jolyon found hardest to take
He’s unhappy about the Wes Streeting interview.
When’s the last time Jolyon Maugham “interrogated” the proposition that trans dogma takes nothing from women at all whatsoever in the least? My rough estimate is that would be never.
Ok, my turn: I would like to emphasize another slightly different point, which is that Jolyon Maugham should fuck right off out of women’s rights. Women’s rights are not his to bargain away and minimize and share with men who say they are women.
Jolyon Maugham is both wrong and hugely harmful to women and our rights.
Jolly boy would like never to start from a position that women’s rights exist. He’s correct that he can’t get anywhere from there.
Given how the narrative concerning what it means to be “transgender” is firmly embedded in the belief that “mental gender” takes precedence over biological sex when it comes to making the distinction between men and women, there really is no legal or social compromise possible. A transwoman is either a man or a woman, not kinda sorta a woman for most issues but let’s flip back to their male bodies when that makes sense. If that position ever did make sense, it doesn’t now. They’re claiming to be female.
“What I find hardest to take is framing a controversy in a way that allows controversy.” No doubt.
That said, I’ve never been much of a fan of the whole man-mishandling-feminism complaint when a substantial proportion of women make the very same arguments — and do so in the name of feminism. Admittedly, it rankles more in one sense, but it doesn’t rankle as much as when done by a feminist previously admired. Gloria Fucking Steinem is just as eager to bargain women’s rights away as Jo Maugham. That’s serious whiplash.
So, if only “some” women are pointing out the danger compared to all those who are “intersectional” when it comes to men in women’s clothing, he thinks they should be dismissed. Alarms need to be only listened to once a democratic vote, or at least an unscientific poll is taken.
“Sorry, firefighters, we have taken a poll and the smoke you see is really nothing to worry about. Stop with your moral panic.”
“Given how the narrative concerning what it means to be “transgender” is firmly embedded in the belief that “mental gender” takes precedence over biological sex when it comes to making the distinction between men and women, there really is no legal or social compromise possible”.
Yes, it’s become purely subjective. A male-bodied individual like Alex Drummond, who identifies as a woman, and has never taken hormones or had sex reassignment surgery. Yet other people must accept publicly Drummond’s self-definition of himself or be harshly punished (note I could be banned from social media simply for referring to Drummond as a male).
So he knows what ‘most women’ think? It seems to me most women aren’t thinking about this issue at all. It isn’t yet on their radar screen. If couched in the terms the trans lobby prefers, most women would probably agree with the idea of not keeping them from peeing, from playing sports, from seeking medical care.
When couched in terms of what is really happening, I suspect most women would be horrified, appalled, and would not support the idea of removing women-only spaces to cater to men who think they are women. Most women would not support convicted male rapists being housed in women’s prisons, even when there has been no surgical or hormonal transition. Most women don’t want to pee with men, to shower with men, to change with men, or to live in close proximity to men who have made a habit of harming women.