Respect the lesbians who date men
Oh yay, more gentle reminders! I love gentle reminders!!
…………………………………….Wut?
That’s not a reminder, it’s wholly new information, and it’s word salad.
It goes on and on like that.
It’s stupid, it’s boring, it’s incoherent. (And how do you “fall in any kind of umbrella”?)
Meanwhile, glaciers are melting and sea levels are rising and forests are vanishing while people spin out the doctrines of this trivial meaningless new religion.
Mspec? That’s a new one.
These gentle reminders always have a whiff of the threat about them, no? But my main problem is the rampant, bigoted, toxic speciesist focus of this list!!!11111!! Where is there room for the Blue Furred Venusian Dragon in this oppressive anthrocentric tweet? Can we start a doxing campaign? /Sarc
Well, just a gentle reminder, first you turn the raised umbrella upside down. Then you float it on a suitable body of water such as a sea of gender iniquity, and then you fall into it. Simple really!
Mspec? That’s a new one.
It is everything and it is nothing:
“A short term for the “multisexual spectrum” aka the spectrum of people who’re attracted to multiple genders. It’s an umbrella term that can include bisexual people, pansexual people, omnisexual people, etc. or even people who don’t use a label at all.”
So my original typo (“that’s mew to me”) wasn’t too far off the mark.
Hold on … how many of these are satire?
I was walking a friend home this evening, and I know that he’s privately gender critical (though he doesn’t say anything in public). He mentioned a particular individual, who is well-known among certain circles, and I had heard of her name, though knew very little about her, so I asked him to remind me who she be. One of the adjective he used was “queer”, and I said: “I don’t even know what ‘queer’ means any more. I used to, back when it meant, more or less, gay, but gay isn’t cool any more, and now queer means — well, honestly, I don’t really have a clue what it means any more. Is she actually a woman, even?”
Sapphic bisexual? Achillean bisexual? These sound like terms made up to make someone look special. “Oh, don’t mind me, I’m an Achillean bisexual. I like to have sex with heels.”
And multisexual is just plain nonsense, spectrum or not. If there are two sexes (and there are), then multisexual, pansexual, and omnisexual just mean bisexual. Which actually does mean likes both men and women, in spite of the word salad.
Unless multisexual means you like to have sex with multiplexes (or multiplication tables). And pansexuals have sex with kitchen equipment. And omnisexual only have sex with omnivores.
If the intention of this author was to give me a headache, I think they/he met their/his ridiculous goal.
falls on floor laughing
Don’t you mean “Be she a woman, even?”?
Autosexuals only like to have sex with cars.
I always thought pansexual just meant a willingness to bang TIMs, which most people are not.
And on that topic: https://uploads.ovarit.com/20a50a35-289b-53d0-a26c-3c474b731276.jpg
Why subjunctive? Sounds beautiful, certainly, but is there a syntactic reason for it/
Could be worse. You could be an Anguillidae bisexual instead …
I’m an Achillean bisexual. I like to have sex with heels.”
Wait, so not having sex in heels?
Reads like someone was writing a “All of the following are true, except:” test question and forgot what they were doing partway through.
I must PROTEST the bigotry exhibited here. Even the catch-all multisexual category is still ANTHROPOCENTRIC. What about those of us that prefer our sexual partners with a litlle more FUR? Or, in my case, scales with a bad case of flaming bad breath. As a Blue Furred Venusian Dragon, I must call out these bigots.
(I know my bad joke is getting old. I promise to retire it unless really provoked!)
GW @ 11:
Autosexuals divide into at least two distinct classes: 1. those who like to have sex with cars, and 2. those whose sexual activities must of necessity take place inside (parked) cars.
Category 2 once included my more youthful self. Paraphrasing the immortal poet: Myself when young did eagerly frequent / The local drive-in passion-pit, and did experiment / With intercourse positions, floor and column gears / And after years / Drove ever out to message received / As message sent.
Well, some may disagree, but I think it’s good for my first try.
A few more gentle reminders while we’re at it:
Vegan does not mean anti-meat.
Carnivorous vegans exist.
Omnivorous vegans exist.
Teetotaler does not mean anti-alcohol. Some teetotalers drink beer, others drink wine, and yet others drink liquor.
Atheist does not have to mean “doesn’t believe in any gods”. There are atheists who believe in one god and atheists who believe in many gods.
Violent pacifists exist. Homicidal pacifists and genocidal pacifists are still pacifists.
Pansexual: https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/224/527017086_a8f61df4f0_n.jpg
Excuse me. The proper adjectival form is not “Venusian” (we don’t tack on endings to the nominative form), but rather “Venereal” (cf. the genetive “Veneris”). You are a Blue Furred Venereal Dragon. Or, if you insist, Cytherean.
Real chat conversation from January 2018:
PERSON A: Can we talk about Venere instead?
PERSON B: ABout Venere?
Should I be shocked or unsurprised when you bring up venerem?
PERSON A: Hm?
I was talking about Venere earlier, but you seemed uninterested!
PERSON B: hahaha
I thought you meant about venere, not abotu Venere
despite the context in the conversation.
maybe better to say “about stella Veneris”
PERSON A: You realize that I intentionally chose the locution “about venere”, because we had been talking rather about dating and such?
PERSON B: ok so the crux of the matter is that we need to decide about which venere we are speaking
PERSON A: Cytherean is an adjective meaning pertaining to Cythera (Greek Κύθηρα, also transliterated Kythera or Kithira), a small island now part of Greece, southeast of the Peloponnesus. It is also an adjective meaning pertaining to the planet Venus.
When planetary scientists began to have a need to discuss Venus in detail, an adjective was needed. Based on Latin principles, the correct adjectival form of the name would be Venerean. However, this term has an unfortunate similarity to the word venereal as in venereal diseases (related to “Venerean” as martial is to “Martian”), and is not generally used by astronomers.[1] The term Venusian is etymologically messy (similar to saying “Earthian” or “Jupiterian”), and a “cleaner” version was desired.
PERSON B: sorry, we BE speaking
PERSON A: We be speakin’ constantly!
PERSON B: clever use of code switchin’
Chaff.
It’s chaff. The goal isn’t to communicate, or even to take a position. The goal is to throw up so much noise and dust and confusion that no one else can communicate, or argue, or take or express a position.
Remember: if you can’t beat ’em, firebomb the playing field.
It means that nothing has any meaning except what I choose at this moment. And that everyone else is wrong and harming me if they don’t instantly grovel in agreement.
And “triggering”. My favorite.
Just noticed this:
Oh, I’m sure I could find a way.
I’m guessing that Louis Carroll’s character of Humpty Dumpty was a character he meant to be mocked, rather than emulated. HD was at least more concise.
“A bisexual person in any relationship is in a queer relationship. Same for all mspec sexualities.” – The people might have bespoke terms and pronouns for themselves, and/or they might be bisexual or even homosexual, but if the relationship in question is a male person going out with a female person, then the relationship is straight.
“Lesbian does not mean anti-man. There are lesbians who date men.” – Sure, but ‘lesbian’ still means a person who is female and is primarily or exclusively attracted to other females.
“There are lesbians who are sometimes men. There are lesbians—like me!—who use he/him pronouns.” – You aren’t a lesbian. To be a lesbian you must be female.
“Straight queers exist!” – Queer used to mean an alternate sexuality. It was always somewhat vaguely defined, but it always mean ‘not straight’ at a minimum. This only confirms that queer has become meaningless.
“Ace and aro cishets are still queer. Transhets are still queer.” – WHARRGARBL
“Bisexual does not have to mean “likes men and women”” – It doesn’t have to mean that, because word meanings are created via common use rather than by decree, yet that is what the word does mean.
“Sapphic bisexuals exist. Achillean bisexuals exist. Bisexual gays and bisexual lesbians exist.” – If you are homosexual, you are not bisexual and vice versa.
“Nonbinary is not synonymous with agender. Nonbinary men exist. Nonbinary women exist.” – They are identical in that they both mean nothing and are used almost exclusively by self-important bores that want to declare that they are special.
“Genderqueer, genderfluid, genderflux, bigender, and many others all fall in the nonbinary umbrella (if they so choose).” – The fact that the silly terms all qualify or don’t qualify as nonbinary, depending solely on the whim of the speaker, really drives home the point that this entire family of words do not have any meaning. It’s Humpty Dumpty all the way down.
Skipping some more WHARRGARBL to get to the nail in the coffin, the comment that goes out of its way to show the paucity of thought in these new vacuous bores:
“Queer for you may be different than queer for someone else. Just because someone has the same label as you but uses it differently doesn’t mean they can’t use that label.” – Because the word literally has zero meaning other than as a signifier of undefined specialness.
Except “man” and (especially) “woman” of course. TRAs have an absolute monopoly on those…
Is it a contradiction to say that a gender canon is genderfluid?
GW @ 14 – What’s the syntactical reason for “He mentioned a particular individual, who is well-known among certain circles, and I had heard of her name, though knew very little about her, so I asked him to remind me who she be.”?
Slavish imitation of Latin syntax for indirect question. “quaesivi eum qui ea esset“. Though I guess sequence of tenses would require imperfect subjunctive: “I asked him who she were“.
Playing with language is fun, and using artificial syntax is a way to have such fun that is far less harmful than redefining “lesbian”.
Well, maybe, but it gets on my nerves a little here. You should write another Finnegan’s Wake or similar.
This whole gender taxonomy vividly reminds me of Zodiac signs.
“A Capricorn isn’t always introverted. Some Capricorns are extroverts.”
“Just because someone is a Pisces, don’t assume they have imagination and wisdom. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don’t.”
“A Taurus is grounded, practical, and realistic — unless they’re born in a different house.”
In both cases, there’s a delight with finding special categories for everyone tempered with a concern over leaving anyone out of the niche they belong in. And, in both cases, the entire field is bullshit, and therefore malleable as long as you more or less begin with the original script.
Would you like me to stop?
1. Hmm, I wonder if Helen Joyce
beis related to James Joyce. They’re both Irish.2. How about Finnegan’s Woke?
Sastra @ 36: Not all Capricorns are born under the sign of Capricorn! Some are born under other signs! You might be a Capricorn if you are introverted! Only you can know for sure if you’re a Capricorn!
All words mean everything. They mean whatever you want. And, this is key, they are not synonymous.
Beetle green salute toxin ephemera!
“Meanwhile, glaciers are melting and sea levels are rising and forests are vanishing while people spin out the doctrines of this trivial meaningless new religion.”
Thank you for completely summarizing my feelings in one sentence.
I think you can probably figure that out for yourself.
Was that addressed to me? I’ll gladly stop. It’s the least I can do for a blogger who regularly brings brightness and sanity to my days, every single day. I should really probably start donating to your Patreon, too.
Donating to the Patreon isn’t an obligation! I really don’t want people to feel that it is. All are welcome, all shall have prizes.
“In his drawing of this scene Tenniel was forced to put human hands under the Dodo’s small, degenerate wings. How else could it hold a thimble?” (Martin Gardner, The Annotated Alice: The Definition Edition, New York & London: W. W. Norton & Company, 1999, p. 32)
One thing the series of tweets I think illustrates is how vitally important it is, for this group of people, that something be labeled “queer”. “Don’t you worry, your precious relationship is still queer”; “It’s OK, your gender and/or sexuality and/or whatever still allows you to call yourself queer”. It’s not a matter of definition or accuracy, it’s a club, a badge of honor.
It’s basically just “hipper than the boring olds.”
Like wearing your baseball cap with the brim in the back!
This person has apparently published a story, and I quote their own words, “Featuring a nonbinary merfolk who uses sign language, a feisty water nymph, and bloodthirsty pirates.”
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If I could be arsed, I would ask this person if they are Deaf, and/or fluent in any true sign language. Supposing they are not, that is textbook cultural appropriation. “But it’s so pretty, like a dance!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cqv84ywBSE
But what does the merfolk use the nymph and pirates for?
GW @ 49 – Yes, and oldie but a goody. But, speaking of old news, look up the “interpreter” who worked with Seattle Men’s Chorus for decades despite being linguistically incompetent, to say the very least. The new author quoted above might be in the same Happy Hands Club.
I’ve often wondered if this fashion will result in a higher incidence of skin cancer on their foreheads amongst people who followed it?
Well, specificity irrascible glockenspiel amulet fascia back at you!
I just clicked on the Twitter thread (it must have been a masochistic impulse).
He writes: “We do not ‘identify as.’ We ARE.” https://twitter.com/TheFaerth/status/1396909350476607488
Hey, I actually agree with that! I do not identify as male. I simply am male; this is a perfect description of my sex.
I’m not sure what he meant, though.
Yes, but a lower incidence of skin cancer on the back of the neck.
Why do you deny my existence?
I wonder if there are multiple types of vegans, including those who enjoy steak, who insist on eating steak, but yet are vegans….each oppressed by the cis carnivores in their own way?
But it’s the cis vegans who are really evil.
Unless they are diet-fluid queer cis vegans who sometimes engage in cannibalism? The taboo against cannibalism has to be the ultimate oppression, no? It’s just another element in the glorious BDSM “Community”! .
I would laugh, if this weren’t so close to the direction where wokeism is tending. Sexual violence = edgy = progressive. :-(