Sedition follies
The public coup plotting keeps chugging along.
President Trump said Sunday that he has spoken with Sen.-elect Tommy Tuberville, the Alabama Republican who suggested last week that he supports a potential challenge to the electoral vote count when the House and Senate convene next month to formally affirm President-elect Joe Biden’s victory.
A “challenge” meaning “No no no we don’t want to!!”
Trump told Giuliani in a radio interview that he talked to the future senator last night.
Biden last week achieved formal victory over Trump, winning his 306 votes in the electoral college and advancing one more step toward inauguration. But the president and his supporters are redoubling their efforts to block the normal transfer of power, including a potential challenge on Jan. 6, when both chambers of Congress conduct the final tally of electoral votes.
That is, Trump and his supporters are working even harder to overthrow the legitimate government.
Some incoming Republican members of the House, including Reps.-elect Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.) and Barry Moore (Ala.), have suggested they will join Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) in using an 1880s law that allows members of Congress to dispute a state’s results and make the House and Senate vote on the challenge to the electoral vote tally.
Too bad for them that McConnell has already said Biden won and the game is over.
Not to mention the Dems still have the House.
True. Just want to mention that I trust McConnell standing by his word the way I’d trust …. (searching for sufficiently untrustworthy analogy) … the way I’d trust Trump.
The Dems still have the House but not the Senate, so we can’t just ignore loons like Tuberville. (Weird name – translates to Potatoburg.)
I of course don’t trust Moscow Mitch, but I figure that his saying it meant that he considered the fight to be lost.
I know. I just meant that if the tide starts to turn he’ll jump on and claim he was in on it all along.
Oh yes. Nothing is too embarrassing for that man.
Right, but as the Post article notes, under the Electoral Count Act, both houses of Congress would have to uphold the objections, or else the electors certified by the governor/secretary of state of the state (meaning, the Biden electors) count.
As a practical matter, even if the Senate is 52-48 for the GOP, there will almost certainly be at least three GOP Senators who wouldn’t go along with this nonsense (Romney, Sasse, Murkowski seem like safe bets), so it probably fails in the Senate too even if Mitch orders the troops on board.
So it’s really just theatre at this point. Which doesn’t make it not odious.
And yet, and yet … there is this nightmare scenario, in which delay the vote until a different set of rules take effect. I don’t know what to make of this vision.
Can you quote a bit Harald? I hate opening posts at The Hill because they’re so full of junk they send my old laptop into fainting spells.
“(Weird name – translates to Potatoburg.)”
And for whatever reason he pronunces it tub-er-vil rather than the expected toob-er-vil.
“if the tide starts to turn…”
They now have an old Auburn¹ coach to help out in such circumstances.
¹ For those who stay completely out of American college football: U of Alabama (“Crimson Tide” or just “Tide”) and Auburn are big in-state rivals. Tuberville used to coach Auburn. Bad pun, sorry.
Um, okay, quoting a bit … it’s a long piece, but the core may be around this bit:
There’s more to it, including some analysis of what might happen next. But it would be a real mess if any of it came to pass.
Whoops, I forgot to remove the word ADVERTISEMENT. Or rather, I didn’t notice it. The thing is, they don’t show up on my computer, other than that word. If you get the actual ads, I see how it could be intrusive and hard on an old laptop.
I emailed you the entire text of the article, in the hopes that your email address hasn’t changed since October 2015. If it has, send me a note and I’ll send to a different address.
This video is long, but I think comprehensive and as far as I can understand correct in it’s analysis of what the outcome of various permutations of political behavior could lead to.
In short:
1. President Biden, VP Harris; or
2. Acting President Pelosi, no VP; or
3. Military Coup (not happening).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6sVow9l8H4
Ophelia #8
Try installing NoScript.
It makes the web much more peaceful.
Thank you Harald! Including for the emailed article which did arrive.
And thank you Steven, good idea.
I am scared silly by possible R machinations on Jan 6. Of course the provision allowing challenges to the validity of a state’s results presumes that the challenges will be made in good faith. Here any challenge will be made in bad faith. R likely have a majority in the Senate. D have a majority of individual members in the House, but that doesn’t help. The vote in the House is not made by individuals, but by states. One vote per state. The entire delegation of reps from each state must agree to a single vote. R control more states in the House, so the D majority in the House is no help. I don’t know of a legal way to stop this. I also do not trust McConnell at all.
I’m wary but not terrified, because so many knowledgeable people are saying it’s not going to happen.
In addition to the Doucette Video above, here is a brief explainer (thanks, lawtwitter) that should make maddog1129 less scared silly.
Ophelia @ #3:
I prefer to translate it to Stink Lily Town, myself.