What happens if you challenge the gender narrative
The abuse continues.
This is not normal. It doesn’t happen in other intra-left disagreements. Why is this so different? I can only conclude that it’s because misogyny is the most deeply rooted hatred of all. We’re watching lefty men fall all over themselves in their ecstatic eagerness to rip lefty women to pieces because these lefty women refuse to agree that men – men – magically turn into women by saying they are women. If we did agree with that claim we would instantly lose the right and the ability to resist male hatred of women and its attendant injustices, because the men wouldn’t be men any more, they would be women. Our words would fall to the floor, useless.
Men like Adrian Harrop and Owen Jones are already making it ever more difficult for women to resist male hatred of women and its attendant injustices, and if we gave in it would be game over.
Not going to happen.
I am so grateful to the women who are standing up in public about this. I can do very little, even on social media, because my stress tolerance is virtually nil. I like to be in a support role, though.
And people going berserk over a harmless poster shows them to be loopy; the public can see who is suppressing whom!
I think part of the backlash against “terfs” is fueled by the common human tendency to focus on, and violently attack, perceived heresy. Infidels and never-believers might be hated, but they fall into a different category. With heretics, it’s personal. They knew better; they know better; they betray their group anyway.
And the insufficiently fanatic are much more likely to leave their religion for a slightly different version of the same religion, than throw it over wholesale. Heretics pose more of a threat than complete outsiders. Thus their motives are extremely suspect: it’s not that they find it easier to break their eggs on the big end, but that they want people to stop eating eggs all together and thus introduced the insidious and seemingly-reasonable alternative to the more correct little end method. Why? Hate. Just pure hate. They were never on our side, and only pretend to still agree with 90% of what we believe.
Why else would liberals who celebrate gender nonconformity and endorse human rights, feminism, and gay rights be seen as worthy of violent retaliation and social canceling from other liberals who celebrate gender nonconformity and endorse human rights, feminism, and gay rights? The first group categorizes a “transwoman” with “gay man” instead of with “woman.” Traitors.
But then why isn’t there equal venom directed at men? And why aren’t enraged abusive trans men as abundant as enraged abusive trans women?
I’m sure there’s much to that explanation, but it doesn’t cover the massive disproportion between how men are treated and how women are.
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My sympathies, tigger. I am with you. Right now, I think my stress tolerance may be in the negative, and this shit just keeps coming. If it was coming into my inbox, I would never make it.
That’s one reason I don’t have a Facebook account (there are other reasons; that may be the most important), a Twitter account, a YouTube presence…I don’t do social media because I cannot handle the cesspool just to get the good bits. I will just follow a few blogs for the good bits.
@Ophelia;
Oh, well that part’s misogyny. I’m just saying it seems to me there’s a lot of things going on here, and the explanation is going to be complicated. Which you probably don’t disagree with. It’s an unholy mess of contributing factors contributing to a holy mess.
As for me and stress, there are some things which disproportionately send me into a nervous state ( like handling the nuts and bolts of finances, say ) and some things which leave me strangely calm. Being attacked on all sides by furious people hurling insults and irrational arguments is kinda interesting. The state of the world is less so, but if I worry about it too much for peace of mind I go watch the fish, or stockpile plans and rebuttals. I’m more reactive than proactive. Must be too much time with the fish.
As Sastra says, it’s most likely the combination of both factors. Heresy/apostasy plus misogyny. Because male heretics get some vitriol, but women get it way, way worse. Viewing the phenomenon as a combination explains why it’s so bad for women. It’s not just apostasy. It’s not just misogyny. It’s the multiplicative result of (at least) those two factors.
I’m having literal nightmares about being GC in a koolaid world. That’s how intrusive the gender wars have become for me.
iknklast, I understand negative tolerance. I think that ‘into the red’ was where mine went this afternoon; I went into AF for a few hours. Fortunately, just as I was thinking I’d have to face going to the hospital, I decided to lie back down and hand-sew a face mask, and that quiet, repetitive activity did the trick.
maddog1129, you have my sympathy. I’m having nightmares about covid. I don’t have room for nightmares about society returning to the misogynistic attitudes of my early life. I spent my teens and early twenties in the seventies, and that was a pretty awful time for young women. I had rather hoped that those attitudes were gone; but they’d just been hidden for a while, to come roaring back at the earliest opportunity.
I have a more hopeful take on this — the trans cult is seeing that years go by pretty fast and the men who lead their movement, no matter how rich or how bullying, are finding out that their male rage is fast approaching the wall of reality where the vast majority of people will simply refuse to ever “get with the trans program” OR allow themselves to be bullied any longer.
So, the men watch their fantasies die a little bit more with each passing year and that causes them a lot of mental grief. They become more and more vicious in their behavior and their female toadies have to ramp up the twin coping strategies of desperately soothing upset males while amping up the attacks on non-compliant real women. This is going to cause burn-out among the toadies and some of the men will ramp up to even more bizarre and unhinged behavior.
All the while, the rest of the world is going to be dealing with all the old problems of life (food, clean water, jobs, children, their own health) plus the new problems (new viruses, climate change, over-population, etc.) — their ability to deal with the shrieking demands of First World Male Problems is limited already and will keep falling.
Yes, the trans cult will still score lots of won battles and probably harm a lot of innocent kids and real women along the way but the war’s final outcome is already written in reality. We just have to stand firm and keep opposing this nonsense in order to keep the damage to a minimum.
Sastra @ 5 – ah yes, of course. Sorry for overlooking your “part of the backlash…”
The social media din is so deceptive. A few deranged obsessives can make a Potempkin ‘movement,’ like the Catholic ‘league’ or ‘Million Moms.’ The absence of rage/erasure campaigns against legitimately transphobic MEN seems too blatant to be ignored.
And yet it is ignored.