Morgane Oger says women who won’t comply get the wall
Morgane Oger says Vancouver Rape Relief asked for it.
Regrettably but predictably, VRR choosing to ignore Canada’s civil rights laws causes blow-back. I empathize VRR feel threatened by the predictable response to their conduct. As I have previously offered, I am ready to help VRR get out of their mess if they wish to.
Sadly, people do misguided things that vent their anger but do little to further the cause they see as theirs. One constructive way to de-legitimize these actions is to participate in no injustice that can be pointed at as worthy of blow-back.
He means that VRR is “participating in an injustice” in not hiring men who identify as women to work as rape counselors. The fact that women who have been raped don’t want male rape counselors is beside the point as far as Oger is concerned. It’s all about what the men who identify as women want, and the women who have been raped just have to take what they’re given…kind of like how rape works.
Oger says it’s ok though because the threats weren’t aimed at the raped women, they were aimed at the organization that helps them.
These threats were not aimed at victims of sexual violence but against an organization run by TERFs and those persons themselves. Such foolish threats can not be condoned and are harmful. Somebody doing awful things gives no license to threaten violence.
I do not support inciting anyone killing or otherwise harming anyone else on the basis of who they are or what they believe.
The appropriate response to the views of TERFs, facists, racists, or other supremacists is education. To handle their harmful actions, we employ police.
He calls feminists who provide rape services the equivalent of fascists, racists, and “other supremacists.”
He accuses them of “inciting harm.”
VRR has been inciting harm towards transgender women since 1995. I empathize with the women this organization refused to help far more than with this easily-replaced corporate entity.
He’s tapping these out with the speed of a machine gun.
He’s a pig.
Inciting harm towards transgender women? No mention of the harm towards the traumatized impoverished Indigenous women who have just been violently raped that would be caused by forcing them to share their refuge with unambiguously male people? Priorities, amirite??
“Blow-back” is a passive-aggressive way of saying “you had it coming.”
Reading through that flood of tweets was a rage-inducing experience.
I don’t think that reacting to death threats by caving in to the demands of the people making the threats will “de- legitimize” the act of making death threats. It would seem to legitimize the act of making death threats.
And yet, somehow, the threats were made against a “worthy” target.
That is some truly awful writing. It made my head hurt, even without the awful content.
Please let the police up there take this seriously and please let there be cameras somewhere on that street that may have some footage of the perps.
Someone of a conspiratorial mindset might be led to believe that Oger, McKinnon and Yaniv were doing their best to discredit the trans community. They’re all from British Columbia (what’s THAT about!?); O and Y are actually acquainted with each other; each has targeted a particular area for well publicized crossing of female boundaries and incursions into female spaces, using laws and rules to do so; each has gloated and celebrated their success at doing so in the most obnoxious and entitled manner. They are each doing a great job at peak transing thousands of people worldwide. This is Philby/Burgess/Maclean levels of infiltration and betrayal, without the secrecy. Or the Cold War.
But no, not a conspiracy, just a trio of narcissistic assholes who have no idea at all of just how repellent their behaviour is (Yaniv particularly, with the extra dollop of pedophilial stalking and voyeurism on top.) Were it not for very real the pain and distress these individuals are causing to women and girls, I would say “Well done, boys! Keep being the entitled, obnoxious, unrepentent assholes you so clearly are. The more you crow and strut, the sooner the rest of the world will wake up to stop you from forcing your delusional demands upon everyone else.”
Trans activists and sympathizers in the mainstream media are keeping these stories under wraps for as much as they can because they know how awful they are to their cause. This part of my little “conspiracy” fantasy I’m beginning to believe. How else can you explain the near silence on stories that are the equivalent of “man bites dog” in terms of being strange and unusual? I’ve seen them report on things much less odd or remarkable. Are they all afraid of TRA backlash? Are they all afraid of losing their progressive woke merit badges? Add in stuff like the “Drag Kids” documentary and I’m thinking it’s an inside job…
I guess any rape survivors (as opposed to the people running the organization) who do object to transwomen serving as their counselors are TERFs and deserve whatever they get.
It’s widely understood that autogynephilia (sexual orientation towards oneself) is a disorder of the sense of self, so it’s not hard to imagine it would tend to accompany other disorders of the self, such as narcissism and narcissistic rage.
“Nice rape crisis center you have here. It would be a shame if anything were to happen to it.”
Oger, McKinnon, and Yaniv? O MY…
Worth noting that the VRR’s right to select membership (and employment) on the basis of sex, not gender-feels, has been upheld in court. When Oger says “VRR choosing to ignore Canada’s civil rights laws”, he is in fact full of shit.
Skeletor, #10. I could have sworn I posted a comment last night likening that very quote to Corleone’s famous ‘offer they cannot refuse’ line. I must have previewed it and then forgot to hit ‘post’ before moving on.
Am still kind-of curious, though: how are these dudes any different from the entitled, aggressive, knuckle-dragging male supremacist assholes who throw massive hissy-fits at the idea that women & children can get away from their abuse in the first place? A man in a frock is still a man: it’s really not a tricky concept!
How are these men any different from their bros who object to the very idea of shelters? The ones who don’t see women as actual people, but as property/accessories to dudes? The ones that start screaming abuse/threatening murder at the idea that “mere feeeeemales” get to say “no” to something the dude wants?
The ones who seem to treat women having boundaries of any sort as a personal affront? The dudes whose brains seem to literally short-circuit with rage at the very idea that women are actually Real People like they are, with thoughts/plans/an internal life that don’t revolve entirely around narcissistic and entitled doodz?
Given that we’re dealing with a dude that threw a spectacular shit-fit and decided that attacking a Rape Crisis Shelter for *setting boundaries* was a great idea, plus all his bros that obviously hate women as much as he does, what is it going to take for everyone to finally grasp that this is the same “He-man Women-Haters’ Club” that it always was, just with the doodz involved wearing creepy fetish “anime cat-girl” costumes? Because “soo cuuute and hot uwu and don’t we make much better gurlz than those icky feeemales!” Remind me how it’s totes not a fetish again…
All of that.
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