The conversation
This happened yesterday:
Tonight I’m going to retweet all the abuse I get for calling out misogyny on twitter today in @HumanRightsCtte. It will be instructive. So fasten your seat belts we’re in for a bumpy ride #onlineabuse https://t.co/WPRFo1rSVz
— Joanna Cherry KC (@joannaccherry) May 1, 2019
And another https://t.co/bx38b9bY04
— Joanna Cherry KC (@joannaccherry) May 1, 2019
And another one https://t.co/bx38b9bY04
— Joanna Cherry KC (@joannaccherry) May 1, 2019
It got boring fast.
Ok 20 minutes of that was enough. Off for a G&T. Thanks to all the wonderful women & men who have sent me msgs of thanks or support today. They far outweigh the abusers. I believe in #FreeSpeech & respectful debate. That’s all #onlineabuse @HumanRightsCtte https://t.co/T3mTMl7UVc
— Joanna Cherry KC (@joannaccherry) May 1, 2019
James Kirkup wrote about it at the Spectator today. Twitter is not real life, he notes, but it does shape the discourse, so it does matter.
So when Twitter starts denying a voice and a platform to certain people and certain ideas, that matters. It also matters when Twitter makes it possible for certain people with certain ideas to be violently abused for expressing those ideas.
Twitter matters in the debate about sex and gender because, at a time when some media outlets and some political representatives are a bit reluctant to engage in a full, rounded debate, Twitter is for some people the only place to talk. So it really matters when Twitter allows the nasty intimidation of women who express views that some people don’t like. And it really matters when Twitter bans from its platform women who express such views – or just state facts that some people find inconvenient.
Both of those things are happening, and happening routinely. Nasty abuse of women who question the mantra that ‘trans women are women’ – or simply ask questions about the implications for law and policy of that stance – is commonplace, with grim consequences.
He cites Helen Lewis, and the fact that she doesn’t join the Twitter conversation as much as she might because of
the abuse and threats she receives there from pathetic, cowardly men claiming to promote the interests of transgender people. Abuse and threats that Twitter appears content to tolerate.
Like for instance yesterday:
https://twitter.com/helenlewis/status/1122812276640309254
Yes, certainly, telling a woman – a woman who talks and writes as a profession, a woman who is good enough for The New Statesman and the Atlantic and Saturday Review – to shut the fuck up, from behind a pointed gun, is all part of the “conversation.”
Kirkup goes on:
Yet elsewhere, Twitter takes a very different approach to what it permits to be said on its platform. Among women who question transgender ideology, an experience almost as common as being abused online is being banned from Twitter for saying things some men don’t like. I could write a very, very long article listing all the women who have been barred from a media platform (that turns a blind eye to threats of violence) simply for stating facts. Facts like ‘men are more likely to commit crimes of violence than women’ and ‘in English law, a rapist must be male because rape is defined as inserting your penis into another person’s body without consent’.
He says to check out #TwitterHatesWomen for more examples than anyone could possibly want.
And because Twitter, sadly, matters, this stuff needs to be debated and scrutinised. Which is why this article isn’t really about Twitter and its awfulness, but about a politician who has done something rather wonderful.
That politician is Joanna Cherry QC, an SNP MP and member of the Joint Committee on Human Rights. It was at that committee that Cherry recently said ‘fuck’ and ‘cunt’ a lot, and in so doing did her job as a parliamentarian in an arena where many others have failed.
The context was a hearing where a Twitter representative was giving evidence about the site’s role in the intimidation of politicians.
You can watch the whole thing here, and I recommend that you do.
I plan to.See
The Twitter representative still does not get it though…or pretends not to. Watch the clip:
Never seen Parliament so sweary before. SNP's @joannaccherry interrogates Twitter exec on precisely when it's acceptable to use the C-word online. pic.twitter.com/wLIlU8YKJl
— Hugo Gye (@HugoGye) May 1, 2019
Joanna Cherry: “Do you accept that the word TERF is a gendered term, forgive me, in the same way as bitch and cunt are gendered terms?”
Twitter’s Katy Minshall: “Yes.”
Cherry: “And are bitch and cunt acceptable on Twitter?”
Minshall: “We don’t have a prohibition on swearing…”
BZZZZZZZZZZZT. Wrong. The issue is not swearing, the issue is gendered epithets.
I do wish people could manage to hang on to that thought for longer than five seconds.
So she said in Parliament that cunt is a gendered term, and she was agreed with? What happened to “it’s not a gendered insult in England”?
In short, the people saying that probably also know it is a gendered insult; they just want to continue to be allowed to use this particular gendered insult without any limitations, and while still feeling good about themselves. I don’t want them to feel good about themselves.
Yep. We’ve heard from many UK commenters over the years who say of course it is. That claim is and was and always has been utter bullshit.
I can accept that it can be used in other ways, including as an endearment. But when angry woke men are shouting it at women on Twitter? Yeah, gendered epithet.
Yeah. I recently had to remove it from a play I wrote about online bullying because the play is being done by teenagers in a very conservative town, and they would not be allowed to say that. It weakens the play somewhat, because you don’t see how nasty the bullying really is when I remove all the gendered insults except “girl” and “wimp”, but at least the play will get seen.
iknklast @3, could they have played an audible ‘beeeep’ or held up a que card with @#*^% on it or something? Preferably something edgy rather than humorous.
Rob, you know, I think you’ve got something there. The play has not yet been produced; it is still in the casting process. That might be acceptable…I’ll have to check. I’m working on a revision, maybe I’ll write that in as an option.
iknklast, what about using an air horn? They’re annoying enough that it probably won’t provoke laughter or a tee-hee-we’re-being-naughty reaction, but will convey some of the feeling of the impact of the word. Of course, depending how often your play uses the word, it could annoy the audience a little TOO much — but maybe you then substitute quieter, less annoying sound effects as the play goes on. Unless that clashes with your message, of course; you might not want to convey the idea that “eh, you get used to being called that…” Or maybe that is precisely your message — that women DO get used to it, and what that implies.
Screechy, I love the air horn. And no, I don’t use it too much for that. Thanks.