A declaration of ignorance and policy insanity
Paul Krugman on the summit frolics.
[T]here has never been a disaster like the G7 meeting that just took place. It could herald the beginning of a trade war, maybe even the collapse of the Western alliance. At the very least it will damage America’s reputation as a reliable ally for decades to come; even if Trump eventually departs the scene in disgrace, the fact that someone like him could come to power in the first place will always be in the back of everyone’s mind.
That’s why I keep saying we’ll never live this down. He got selected, he got elected, and he trashed the joint. Not a sign of health.
He didn’t put America first; Russia first would be a better description. And he didn’t demand drastic policy changes from our allies; he demanded that they stop doing bad things they aren’t doing. This wasn’t a tough stance on behalf of American interests, it was a declaration of ignorance and policy insanity.
Trump started with a call for readmitting Russia to the group, which makes no sense at all. The truth is that Russia, whose GDP is about the same size as Spain’s and quite a bit smaller than Brazil’s, was always a ringer in what was meant to be a group of major economies. It was brought in for strategic reasons, and kicked out when it invaded Ukraine. There is no possible justification for bringing it back, other than whatever hold Putin has on Trump personally.
Nukes? Great power? It’s really big?
Then Trump demanded that the other G7 members remove their “ridiculous and unacceptable” tariffs on U.S. goods – which would be hard for them to do, because their actual tariff rates are very low. The European Union, for example, levies an average tariff of only three percent on US goods. Who says so? The U.S. government’s own guide to exporters.
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So what on earth was Trump even talking about? His trade advisers have repeatedly claimed that value-added taxes, which play an important role in many countries, are a form of unfair trade protection. But this is sheer ignorance: VATs don’t convey any competitive advantage – they’re just a way of implementing a sales tax — which is why they’re legal under the WTO. And the rest of the world isn’t going to change its whole fiscal system because the U.S. president chooses to listen to advisers who don’t understand anything.
Actually, though, Trump might not even have been thinking about VATs. He may just have been ranting. After all, he goes on and on about other vast evils that don’t exist, like a huge wave of violent crime committed by illegal immigrants (who then voted in the millions for Hillary Clinton.)
So what’s the goal?
Well, it was pretty much exactly what he would have done if he really is Putin’s puppet: yelling at friendly nations about sins they aren’t committing won’t bring back American jobs, but it’s exactly what someone who does want to break up the Western alliance would like to see.
Alternatively, maybe he was just acting out because he couldn’t stand having to spend hours with powerful people who will neither flatter him nor bribe him by throwing money at his family businesses – people who, in fact, didn’t try very hard to hide the contempt they feel for the man leading what is still, for the moment, a great power.
Whatever really happened, this was an utter, humiliating debacle. And we all know how Trump responds to humiliation. You really have to wonder what comes next. One thing’s for sure: it won’t be good.
Well what comes next is the meeting with Kim so…
Jeezus H. Keerist…!
Well, that’s the Trump entree. Now for the main course….? After all, though some of the G7 are nuclear states, they all have a history of military ties to the US.
Not so North Korea. Kim is a brat prince with the blood of rivals, relatives and rival relatives on his hands. And Trump is an overgrown child, constantly demanding to be the centre of attention; and will be so till he is kicked out.
And there is no supervisor in their kindergarten.
I can see him giving North Korea much of what they want, just as a giant fuck you to the western alliance. Then again, he’s such an ignorant and unstable pillock you just never know.
Whatever North Korea gains from this, China is the real beneficiary. With regional tensions de-escalating and the US distracted by trade wars with Canada, Mexico and all of Europe, China can make its play for regional, and ultimately global domination.
Canadian steel was no threat to American jobs. With the almost total integration of supply chains, Canadian steel is essential, dependable and responsible for US jobs. Chinese steel, on the other hand…
And all Xi Jinping needed to do was ink a business deal with Princess Ivanka worth a few million dollars, to make all their trade woes go away.
Actually, I just thought of a way out. Trudeau authorizes a $3 million/year deal to slap the Trump logo on the CN Tower and the “trade war” would end by 4:00 Monday.
https://www.facebook.com/144310995587370/photos/a.271728576178944.71555.144310995587370/1941216225896829/?type=3&theater
But then the Trump logo would be on the CN Tower. IS IT WORTH IT?
Ophelia, put it on the Lake Ontario side and I’d never have to see it. We could photoshop it out of any skyline pics. Or better yet, photoshop it in and never put the sign up in the first place.
We’re not up against the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Honestly, if the cheque clears the bank, it’s not like Trump is ever going to check up on us.
It is one of the things I keep saying: We in Africa need to take Trump being elected as a warning that we cannot rely upon the West.
We need to boost our funding for the sciences, boost our spending on developing our own economies, and cut all reliance on American goods and services, because America is fundamentally headed by a madman.
The American market is always talked up as if servicing American demand is this path to wealth, yet it is remarkably rare when an outside player can actually make any headway in it. The demand economy just isn’t there anymore, it is all advertising.
American instability hasn’t historically been good for the rest of us, and what we’re seeing now is a big enough warning that it is coming sooner rather than later. We need to get ready, because I don’t think you in America really can right this ship.
Part of your problem isn’t really Russia – it is the same crisis that we in South Africa faced with Bell Pottinger. As Trump comes more and more under the thumb of oligarchs you can expect more and more hate online – it isn’t the “alt right” – it is PR companies which will be getting paid to shield your states’ corrupt actors.
Compromising video of Trump with prostitutes in Moscow?
Or…maybe they’ll be so relieved when we have a good president that all will be forgiven, we’ll agree never to speak of this again, and we’ll have the best relationship ever!
More seriously, there was a lot of the same talk with George W. Bush, that permanent damage was being done. Bush scandalized allies by saying we didn’t need the UN and could go it alone in Iraq. A Bush underling dismissed some of our allies as “the chocolate-making countries”. We were on such bad terms with France that “freedom fries” were a thing in some (dumb) quarters. Obviously not as bad as Trump, but we did bounce back more quickly than many people had feared.
And some good could come of this. The U.S. shouldn’t be the linchpin that holds the entire Western alliance together. They should be able to ride out a 4-year term of a moron U.S. president. Likewise, at home all the things that candidates and presidents do that are custom but not laws should become laws (automatic release of tax forms by the IRS once you file to run, for one example).
“…the fact that someone like him could come to power in the first place..”
Yes, indeed.That’s the most alarming aspect of the entire Trump debacle. Could the US produce another ignorant vulgarian as president? Krugman has placed the Russian economy in its proper perspective. The Soviet Union was described as ‘ Lower Slobbovia with Rockets’, nothing has changed. The mandarins in the Middle Kingdom must be smiling, again.
The G7 is obsolete.
I may have been more on point than I realized https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/trade-sanctions-against-america-wont-work-sanctioning-trump-himself-might/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Sanctioning Trump and his family is certainly an interesting idea.