The children will be taken care of
John Kelly on NPR this morning:
Are you in favor of this new move announced by the attorney general early this week that if you cross the border illegally even if you’re a mother with your children [we’re going] to arrest you? We’re going to prosecute you, we’re going to send your kids to a juvenile shelter?
The name of the game to a large degree. Let me step back and tell you that the vast majority of the people that move illegally into United States are not bad people. They’re not criminals. They’re not MS-13. Some of them are not. But they’re also not people that would easily assimilate into the United States into our modern society. They’re overwhelmingly rural people in the countries they come from – fourth, fifth, sixth grade educations are kind of the norm. They don’t speak English, obviously that’s a big thing. They don’t speak English. They don’t integrate well, they don’t have skills. They’re not bad people. They’re coming here for a reason. And I sympathize with the reason. But the laws are the laws. But a big name of the game is deterrence.
Family separation stands as a pretty tough deterrent.
It could be a tough deterrent — would be a tough deterrent. A much faster turnaround on asylum seekers.
Even though people say that’s cruel and heartless to take a mother away from her children?
I wouldn’t put it quite that way. The children will be taken care of — put into foster care or whatever. But the big point is they elected to come illegally into the United States and this is a technique that no one hopes will be used extensively or for very long.
Or whatever.
OR WHATEVER.
Time magazine a couple of weeks ago:
Federal officials lost track of nearly 1,500 migrant children last year after a government agency placed the minors in the homes of adult sponsors in communities across the country, according to testimony before a Senate subcommittee Thursday.
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“You are the worst foster parents in the world. You don’t even know where they are,” said Democratic Sen. Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota. “We are failing. I don’t think there is any doubt about it. And when we fail kids that makes me angry.”
Since the dramatic surge of border crossings in 2013, the federal government has placed more than 180,000 unaccompanied minors with parents or other adult sponsors who are expected to care for the children and help them attend school while they seek legal status in immigration court.
An AP investigation found in 2016 that more than two dozen unaccompanied children had been sent to homes where they were sexually assaulted, starved or forced to work for little or no pay. At the time, many adult sponsors didn’t undergo thorough background checks, government officials rarely visited homes and in some cases had no idea that sponsors had taken in several unrelated children, a possible sign of human trafficking.
Whatever.
Whatever.
Whatever.
Republican Sen. Rob Portman gave HHS and the Department of Homeland Security until Monday to deliver a time frame for improving monitoring.
“These kids, regardless of their immigration status, deserve to be treated properly, not abused or trafficked,” said Portman, who chairs the subcommittee. “This is all about accountability.”
Portman began investigating after a case in his home state of Ohio, where eight Guatemalan teens were placed with human traffickers and forced to work on egg farms under threats of death. Six people have been convicted and sentenced to federal prison for their participation in the trafficking scheme that began in 2013.
Whatever.
“I wouldn’t put it quite that way. The children will be taken care of — put into foster care or whatever. Fuck ’em.”
Even if you believe they are well “taken care of” – they are still separated from their parents. So why wouldn’t you “put it that way”, since it is obviously true? Because it makes clear how cruel that is?
Also:The phrasing is right from the abuser handbook, isn’t it?
” this is a technique that no one hopes will be used extensively or for very long.” is the political eqivalent of
“See what you made me do? Why do you make me hit you?”
Yup, those pesky laws, they’re just there, man. Like, nobody knows how the laws get there, but there they are, and they have to be obeyed, and they have to be enforced. Nothing we can do about that. Nope, we certainly didn’t push as hard as we could to make the terrible, family-wrecking laws that we have, no siree. Not our fault, or responsibility. The laws are just a fact of nature, and we have to do the burdensome onerous things they make us do, even if it pains us ever so terribly to do so.
Going five miles over the speed limit is also against the law but we don’t take away people’s children if they do it…
I assume that to be the total assault rate. While 24 out of 180,000 is 24 too many, it is arguably not a bad result as these things go. That is a rate of about one in 7500; at a guess below average for the population at large. So while there is always room for improvement, someone seems to be getting it right.