Whose business
Ah smug pseudo-lefties, they just can’t get enough of this kind of drivel.
…if some father and mother have healthcare for their kid lined up who’s trans just stay the fuck out of their business.
Burst of applause.
Is that right? So if some father and mother keep their desperately ill kid away from healthcare because they are Jehovah’s Witnesses or some other bullshit religion, just stay the fuck out of their business? Just let the kid die?
In other words that’s not a generalizable policy, and in fact it’s pretty stupid on the face of it if you know anything about what “healthcare” for trans people means.
“They should mind their own business,” Hayes goes on to say after some back and forth. Again: it depends. Some parents do seriously bad things to their children, so it’s just not an absolute rule that we should all mind our own business no matter what the specifics are. Some parents beat their children, some sexually molest them, some deprive them of food or education or medicine or all of those, some tell them they’re evil and the spawn of Satan. Sometimes it is the business of outsiders what particular parents are doing to particular children.
I think surgeries or non-medical puberty blockers or both=one of those times.
If parents are entitled to deny their kids chemo for religious nutter reasons then this is of a kind.
What it isn’t is a winning strategy… Pretend you’ve never heard the word “transgender” and quietly work on the housing/employment discrimination stuff. The forces of darkness won that argument; deal with the consequences. The trans are paying a high price for their excesses but now is not the time to cry for them.
Probably doesn’t matter in the end… Men in women’s bathrooms is gonna look pretty insignificant when our bank accounts zero out, the black shirts are roaming the streets, and Chinese nukes start raining from the sky.
Actually, yes, that’s been the policy. Nebraska is the only state that has never had a protect the religious bill; most states don’t allow prosecution of parents if they let their kids die for religious reasons. It’s disgusting.
Jayzus. I didn’t know it was that bad.
The only reason Nebraska never had it was Ernie Chambers, who managed to be a one man force against the Republican legislature. He has been term limited out, and he is now 87, so most of us don’t think he’ll be back when he can run again. The voters voted against school vouchers, but the legislature is in the process of voting on a bill to get them anyway. Religion will likely get an even easier time than they already had.
As an addendum… The libertarian approach would’ve been much more popular than “No Debate” but considering how “No Debate” was successfully weaponized it’s a stinking loser of an argument. If you care about the trans, protect them as best you can just don’t pretend you’re still in the old world where LGBTWTFBBQ+++ was a thing you could trot out to effect.
They can’t even be consistent on letting the parents decide. Otherwise they’d oppose schools’ keeping secrets from parents, sanctuary state nonsense, and pornographic books in middle school libraries. It’s such sickening rhetorical opportunism.