I like the art style of the storyboard. The sound is meaningless, I’m sure it would be replaced by dialogue and regular background music and sound. And of course it needs the finished art. I can see it as a representation of a kid who is different and doesn’t fit in, trying to be helpful to someone in the restroom and ending up scaring the person, then collapsing and calling Dad. The problem is if course that this is a boy in the girls’ restroom, not just an awkward kid.
This is just a storyboard of one segment of an episode. What was cut was an entire episode focused on this character. The character is still part of the show, but is not featured. I gather you could watch the whole series and not notice that this character is male, except for this one episode, because he’s just a background character.
In Australia, there’s a popular soapie, Neighbours. Neighbours was pestered by trans actor, Georgie Stone into having a trans character on the show. Stone also consulted heavily on storylines. Among the first storylines were Stone getting the schoolgirls to demand he have access to the girls bathroom, and Stone nervously coming out to a prospective love interest who takes it all in his stride and swears Stone is “still the prettiest girl here”.
There’s so much of this cultural messaging telling girls to budge up, shift over, be nice, make room, make sure he’s comfortable, even if it’s at your expense.
There is dialog for this scene that flashes at the bottom in very tiny text for a split second. I’m guessing the storyboard is something you’d normally scroll through on your own, so you’d then take the time to read the dialog, but whoever turned it into a video just has the dialogue appear for a frame or two, so it’s impossible to read unless you pause the video.
The gist is a trans girl on a co-ed softball team is unsure which bathroom to use but gets pulled into the girls’ bathroom by a team mate. Things seem to go well, but when helping a young girl wash food off her hands and cast (“she” tells the young girl she doesn’t want to get ants in her cast), “she” catches a glimpse of herself in the mirror and imagines “herself” as a man and panics.
“She” then talks to her dad on the phone, which cheers “her” up until the dad refers to “her” as “my son”.
Then “her” coach finds “her” and tells “her” “she’s” always welcome on the team and they’re all there for “her”. People have interpreted this as grooming kids to bond with adult males, but I think they didn’t read the dialogue so didn’t understand it was the coach.
Good for Disney dropping this. Their explanation that parents want to decide when to discuss such things is more than reasonable.
It’s a mixed sex team, right? Is the T character counted as a male player or a female player? It *could* be a preachable/teachable moment if it were made clear that he’s a male player, and have the other boys escort him safely to the boys’ bathroom, thereby demonstrating that there is more than one way for a boy to dress, look, and act. It’s not on girls to sacrifice themselves for the wishes of boys; it’s a problem for the boys to solve among themselves.
Their explanation that parents want to decide when to discuss such things is more than reasonable.
It is reasonable, but only in some contexts. I have had to deal with situations where it is assumed the parent wants to be the one to discuss evolution with them, and that’s a reason for not putting it in the classroom.
There isn’t an easy answer. I want students to have sex education, and a lot of parents don’t feel comfortable talking about it with their kids. At the same time, the school shouldn’t be teaching them this trans stuff, nor should Disney.
I don’t think there’s an easy way to resolve this, though my preferred solution would be that schools (and Disney) teach what is true. Parents, instead of being given rights to push anything they like on their kids, will have a responsibility to make sure their children get an appropriate education that will help them achieve reasonable goals. I know, Utopia. I don’t expect it to happen, but in an ideal world, neither parents nor schools (nor Disney) would have any sort of monopoly on who wants to teach what; the only guide would be teaching what would be as close to truth as we can approximate it using current methods of scientific and philosophical exploration.
I think Disney should have done what they did, but not because of parental complaints or desires. There are too many things parents want to be able to do that are harmful…my parents filled me with all sorts of nonsense. I was able to shrug most of it off, but not all kids can do that.
You are right that there aren’t easy answers for a lot of situations. The same good impulse that leads teachers to teach evolution can lead them to think it’s also important to teach the new “truths” about gender. Look at all the science organizations and publications with chipper explanations about how gender and sex are on spectrums and we can see this clearly in the animal kingdom, etc.
I think an easy first step is age-appropriateness. Kindergarteners don’t need to learn gender ideology. Honestly, I think K-3 doesn’t need any sex stuff.
I don’t necessarily think it’s bad that Disney is reacting to parents. And I think a lot of parents, even yucky conservative ones, have correctly seen it as Disney evangelizing the progressive vision to their kids when they just want to have some safe entertainment. I believe there was even some leak to that effect, that Disney had internal pressure by younger staff to put more progressive messages in their shows.
Even if you think it’s good, they’re so heavy-handed about it, that it just turns off everyone they might possibly reach. A lot of their movies where they went all-in on a message were spectacular bombs. Even more so than you’d expect by them just losing the conservative audience. Maybe progressives also find being preached at to be tiring even if they agree with the preaching.
Back to the main topic, how do we keep evolution and sex ed in without also teaching young kids they may be trans? I don’t know. So many people on-board with the former are also on-board with the latter.
As much as I dislike the orange idiot, I’m hoping a silver lining in this dumpster fire will be tamping down this trans stuff. The political winds have already shifted, so the time might be right to flush this out of most schools, especially at the younger levels. It would be nice if kids could get to high school without anyone trying to convince them their magical gendered soul was born in the wrong body.
I have no idea what I just saw. Maybe my old brain is ill-suited for this “Pixar” shit.
Yeah mine hates it too. The last bit was completely meaningless.
I like the art style of the storyboard. The sound is meaningless, I’m sure it would be replaced by dialogue and regular background music and sound. And of course it needs the finished art. I can see it as a representation of a kid who is different and doesn’t fit in, trying to be helpful to someone in the restroom and ending up scaring the person, then collapsing and calling Dad. The problem is if course that this is a boy in the girls’ restroom, not just an awkward kid.
This is just a storyboard of one segment of an episode. What was cut was an entire episode focused on this character. The character is still part of the show, but is not featured. I gather you could watch the whole series and not notice that this character is male, except for this one episode, because he’s just a background character.
Oh, duh, I didn’t realize it was a storyboard. Thanks for clarifying.
In Australia, there’s a popular soapie, Neighbours. Neighbours was pestered by trans actor, Georgie Stone into having a trans character on the show. Stone also consulted heavily on storylines. Among the first storylines were Stone getting the schoolgirls to demand he have access to the girls bathroom, and Stone nervously coming out to a prospective love interest who takes it all in his stride and swears Stone is “still the prettiest girl here”.
There’s so much of this cultural messaging telling girls to budge up, shift over, be nice, make room, make sure he’s comfortable, even if it’s at your expense.
That sounds extremely annoying.
There is dialog for this scene that flashes at the bottom in very tiny text for a split second. I’m guessing the storyboard is something you’d normally scroll through on your own, so you’d then take the time to read the dialog, but whoever turned it into a video just has the dialogue appear for a frame or two, so it’s impossible to read unless you pause the video.
The gist is a trans girl on a co-ed softball team is unsure which bathroom to use but gets pulled into the girls’ bathroom by a team mate. Things seem to go well, but when helping a young girl wash food off her hands and cast (“she” tells the young girl she doesn’t want to get ants in her cast), “she” catches a glimpse of herself in the mirror and imagines “herself” as a man and panics.
“She” then talks to her dad on the phone, which cheers “her” up until the dad refers to “her” as “my son”.
Then “her” coach finds “her” and tells “her” “she’s” always welcome on the team and they’re all there for “her”. People have interpreted this as grooming kids to bond with adult males, but I think they didn’t read the dialogue so didn’t understand it was the coach.
Good for Disney dropping this. Their explanation that parents want to decide when to discuss such things is more than reasonable.
It’s a mixed sex team, right? Is the T character counted as a male player or a female player? It *could* be a preachable/teachable moment if it were made clear that he’s a male player, and have the other boys escort him safely to the boys’ bathroom, thereby demonstrating that there is more than one way for a boy to dress, look, and act. It’s not on girls to sacrifice themselves for the wishes of boys; it’s a problem for the boys to solve among themselves.
It is reasonable, but only in some contexts. I have had to deal with situations where it is assumed the parent wants to be the one to discuss evolution with them, and that’s a reason for not putting it in the classroom.
There isn’t an easy answer. I want students to have sex education, and a lot of parents don’t feel comfortable talking about it with their kids. At the same time, the school shouldn’t be teaching them this trans stuff, nor should Disney.
I don’t think there’s an easy way to resolve this, though my preferred solution would be that schools (and Disney) teach what is true. Parents, instead of being given rights to push anything they like on their kids, will have a responsibility to make sure their children get an appropriate education that will help them achieve reasonable goals. I know, Utopia. I don’t expect it to happen, but in an ideal world, neither parents nor schools (nor Disney) would have any sort of monopoly on who wants to teach what; the only guide would be teaching what would be as close to truth as we can approximate it using current methods of scientific and philosophical exploration.
I think Disney should have done what they did, but not because of parental complaints or desires. There are too many things parents want to be able to do that are harmful…my parents filled me with all sorts of nonsense. I was able to shrug most of it off, but not all kids can do that.
You are right that there aren’t easy answers for a lot of situations. The same good impulse that leads teachers to teach evolution can lead them to think it’s also important to teach the new “truths” about gender. Look at all the science organizations and publications with chipper explanations about how gender and sex are on spectrums and we can see this clearly in the animal kingdom, etc.
I think an easy first step is age-appropriateness. Kindergarteners don’t need to learn gender ideology. Honestly, I think K-3 doesn’t need any sex stuff.
I don’t necessarily think it’s bad that Disney is reacting to parents. And I think a lot of parents, even yucky conservative ones, have correctly seen it as Disney evangelizing the progressive vision to their kids when they just want to have some safe entertainment. I believe there was even some leak to that effect, that Disney had internal pressure by younger staff to put more progressive messages in their shows.
Even if you think it’s good, they’re so heavy-handed about it, that it just turns off everyone they might possibly reach. A lot of their movies where they went all-in on a message were spectacular bombs. Even more so than you’d expect by them just losing the conservative audience. Maybe progressives also find being preached at to be tiring even if they agree with the preaching.
Back to the main topic, how do we keep evolution and sex ed in without also teaching young kids they may be trans? I don’t know. So many people on-board with the former are also on-board with the latter.
As much as I dislike the orange idiot, I’m hoping a silver lining in this dumpster fire will be tamping down this trans stuff. The political winds have already shifted, so the time might be right to flush this out of most schools, especially at the younger levels. It would be nice if kids could get to high school without anyone trying to convince them their magical gendered soul was born in the wrong body.