What exactly are Patrick Harvie’s qualifications in medical science to have an authoritative opinion about whether the Cass Report is valid bit of scientific research?
Patrick Harvie is the leader of the Greens in Scotland, who are in coalition with the SNP in Scotland’s devolved government. In the past few days the Scottish Government has ditched its commitments to a net zero target for climate change and also, after havering about the Cass report, have accepted the Sandyford clinic (the equivalent of Tavistock) pausing puberty blockers for children, and raising the age for receiving them to 18.
The net zero target adjustment has not caused anything like the rage with the activists in the Green party that the puberty blockers pause has. It’s utterly insane the damage this issue has caused to the Green party. The Green party seems to have dropped its core environmental concerns, which win broad appeal, to Scottish independence and transgenderism,. Old Green hands who spent years building up the party to move into the mainstream from the fringes are tearing out their hair. They lost Andy Wightman, one of the best MSPs, over this issue. People like me who would vote Green have been utterly turned off by their hysteria and idiocy.
The activists are now calling an Emergency General Meeting to get the Green party to pull out of the coalition. Over this particular issue.
This seems to have been caused by the young activists who hold Transgenderism as the most important issue ever, and have entered the party, to destroy it, as the Socialists Workers Party does with anything that looks like a popular movement.
I would bet that a number of people sympathetic to transgender ideology have seen nothing about the Cass report other than criticisms. Just like they’ve seen nothing about JK Rowling other than criticisms. Their social circles, their sources of information, the pundits they read, none of those will have carried good-faith examinations of the report and discussions of the issues covered. I don’t think they can be said to have sought out these criticisms; rather, that’s the only thing they come across.
KBPlayer, that seems to be the trajectory of Green parties everywhere. They have morphed from environmental parties to social justice parties. Of course there is room for legitimate overlap, but many people who are conservative or centrist feel deeply about the environment, but are lukewarm or opposed to some of the social justice issues. We’ve certainly seen that happen here in NZ – to the extent that I’m unlikely to vote Green for the foreseeable future despite caring deeply about the environmental issues they supposedly champion.
@Rob – yes. I do remember when left and Green politics were quite distinct. Leftists’ emphasis was on the industrial working class and industrialism generally, while Green politics were seen as bourgeois luxuries. They have pretty much merged now, and the young activists who are involved with climate change tend to have bought the whole package deal of intersectionality including transgenderism.
I would still vote for a couple of Green local councillors who do their jobs pretty well. I campaign for better cycling provision – in fact Patrick Harvie, who is Minister for Active Travel, was cutting a red ribbon for cycle lanes where I live. I’m glad to say the demographic of the campaigners means that we don’t get infiltrated by the transgendies and we aren’t a political party but a lobby group.
On Scottish politics I am glad that the independence movement has been torn to bits by this with eg Wings over Scotland, one of the most robust of independence propagandists, being one of the most robust gender criticals as well. On the other hand I’m finding it humiliating that politicians I oppose are so bad – you want your opponents to be people you can have some respect for.
However the transgender issue has exacerbated the anger that the Greens feel towards the Scottish govt.
One Green councillor:-
““With the council tax freeze, climate targets scrapped, and MSPs who run rampant with transphobia, the SNP have shown a lot of contempt in the past year. I think it’s time for members to have a say on the BHA [Bute House agreement between SNP and the Greens] again.””
What exactly are Patrick Harvie’s qualifications in medical science to have an authoritative opinion about whether the Cass Report is valid bit of scientific research?
Patrick Harvie is the leader of the Greens in Scotland, who are in coalition with the SNP in Scotland’s devolved government. In the past few days the Scottish Government has ditched its commitments to a net zero target for climate change and also, after havering about the Cass report, have accepted the Sandyford clinic (the equivalent of Tavistock) pausing puberty blockers for children, and raising the age for receiving them to 18.
The net zero target adjustment has not caused anything like the rage with the activists in the Green party that the puberty blockers pause has. It’s utterly insane the damage this issue has caused to the Green party. The Green party seems to have dropped its core environmental concerns, which win broad appeal, to Scottish independence and transgenderism,. Old Green hands who spent years building up the party to move into the mainstream from the fringes are tearing out their hair. They lost Andy Wightman, one of the best MSPs, over this issue. People like me who would vote Green have been utterly turned off by their hysteria and idiocy.
The activists are now calling an Emergency General Meeting to get the Green party to pull out of the coalition. Over this particular issue.
This seems to have been caused by the young activists who hold Transgenderism as the most important issue ever, and have entered the party, to destroy it, as the Socialists Workers Party does with anything that looks like a popular movement.
How destructive this has been.
Good grief. What a disaster.
I would bet that a number of people sympathetic to transgender ideology have seen nothing about the Cass report other than criticisms. Just like they’ve seen nothing about JK Rowling other than criticisms. Their social circles, their sources of information, the pundits they read, none of those will have carried good-faith examinations of the report and discussions of the issues covered. I don’t think they can be said to have sought out these criticisms; rather, that’s the only thing they come across.
KBPlayer, that seems to be the trajectory of Green parties everywhere. They have morphed from environmental parties to social justice parties. Of course there is room for legitimate overlap, but many people who are conservative or centrist feel deeply about the environment, but are lukewarm or opposed to some of the social justice issues. We’ve certainly seen that happen here in NZ – to the extent that I’m unlikely to vote Green for the foreseeable future despite caring deeply about the environmental issues they supposedly champion.
@Rob – yes. I do remember when left and Green politics were quite distinct. Leftists’ emphasis was on the industrial working class and industrialism generally, while Green politics were seen as bourgeois luxuries. They have pretty much merged now, and the young activists who are involved with climate change tend to have bought the whole package deal of intersectionality including transgenderism.
I would still vote for a couple of Green local councillors who do their jobs pretty well. I campaign for better cycling provision – in fact Patrick Harvie, who is Minister for Active Travel, was cutting a red ribbon for cycle lanes where I live. I’m glad to say the demographic of the campaigners means that we don’t get infiltrated by the transgendies and we aren’t a political party but a lobby group.
On Scottish politics I am glad that the independence movement has been torn to bits by this with eg Wings over Scotland, one of the most robust of independence propagandists, being one of the most robust gender criticals as well. On the other hand I’m finding it humiliating that politicians I oppose are so bad – you want your opponents to be people you can have some respect for.
Actually I see that I have been misinforming. The EGM has been called on the SNP’s energy policy.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/21/co-leader-of-scottish-greens-admits-coalition-with-government-could-fail
However the transgender issue has exacerbated the anger that the Greens feel towards the Scottish govt.
One Green councillor:-
““With the council tax freeze, climate targets scrapped, and MSPs who run rampant with transphobia, the SNP have shown a lot of contempt in the past year. I think it’s time for members to have a say on the BHA [Bute House agreement between SNP and the Greens] again.””