Prove him wrong
Remember Morgane Oger? He posted on Facebook yesterday:
Prove me wrong: No sports injury data in Canada supports the theory that trans women in sports put other women at risk.
So why is the concept even on the table?
There is no credible evidence to suggest that trans women pose a greater risk of causing injuries in women’s sports. The argument that trans women are inherently more dangerous in sports is not supported by data or research.
Sports injuries are influenced by a wide range of factors, such as the specific sport, the level of contact, the training and skill levels of the participants, and the safety measures in place.
Research on sports participation often focuses on these aspects rather than on the gender identity of the athletes. Additionally, most sports organizations that allow trans women to compete in women’s categories have policies in place regarding hormone levels and physical transition requirements to ensure fair and safe competition.
Overall, the claim that trans women put other women at increased risk in sports is not substantiated by evidence and is often rooted in misconceptions or biased views rather than in empirical research or injury data.
Sure and that’s why football, hockey, boxing, cycling, running, tennis and the like are all mixed-sex and never ever ever divided into female and male. Simply put, there are no physical differences between the two sexes that would justify that division.
Slightly edited Oger:
“Realty’s so complex, don’t you know. (Of course you do – you’ve all being told). It’s impossible to know anything really, but who cares because I’m telling you THE TRUTH. (Hallelujah!) Besides, everything’s fine – it’s all under control, no problems AT ALL, you don’t really need to understand any of this except to know that I’M RIGHT. (Praise the Lord!) Also if you’re thinking about, er, thinking about this YOU’RE A BIGOT AND JUST SHUT UP.”
Sounds like he is laying the foundation for blaming women who get hurt by TiMs in sport. They just don’t have the skill level.
That’s why so many trans-men are flocking into men’s boxing, football, soccer, kickboxing, wrestling . . . .
Oh, wait a minute . . .
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Sure does. Didn’t we just have a discussion here about a writer claiming that world silver medalist boxer Angela Carini shouldn’t be in a boxing ring?
There is no doubt likewise “no sports injury data” that supports weight divisions in boxing and wrestling, so a Japanese Sumo wrestler should be able to take on a flyweight boxer, male or female. But that’s not the end of it. The big philosophical breakthrough here is that all categories are flexible, not rigid. Not only can men become women; cats can become dogs, mice become lions, and so on to infinity.
“Eureka!” The mediaeval alchemists get the last laugh. Lead can finally become gold!
We are privileged indeed to live in such an epoch.
To summarise his main point, there is no data to support the theory that trans women in sports put
otherwomen at risk. Sports injuries have many causes, which he lists. Research focuses on the listed items but not on thegender identitysex of the participants. So what he’s saying is that there is no data to support the theory because the relevant data is not being collected. Is that what in sports is known as an unforced error?So from the start, he’s declaring data from anywhere else on Earth (FALLON FOX) out of bounds. Does that mean that any such injuries that have occured elsewhere never really happen, or he’s taking advantage of the lucky fact that (according to him, which I wouldn’t trust in any case) there happen to have been no such incidents- so far- in Canada?
And even if women (not “other women”) are not injured, men invading women’s sports remains unfair. Making a big deal of Canadian female athletes not having yet been injured or worse, hides the fact that he’s still defending the sacrifice of fairness for the god of affirmation. I’m sure that there’s no sports injury data in Canada that would, in Oger’s argument, preclude the participation of high school and college athletes in primary school sports either.
This represents part of the retreat from “It’s just a few (Relax, it’s only a little bit of cheating.),” and “It’s just a few but they won’t dominate (We’ll still let you win some of the time.)” The fallback position is now “No women have been injured (Stop complaining! nobody’s been maimed or killed yet!)”
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Yup. “It’s her own fault!” Sound familiar?
“Prove him wrong?” Oger is the one arguing for ruining women’s sport. He’s the one with the burden of proof. This “Prove me wrong” bullshit is a distraction from his injurious, malicious agenda. Monitoring “hormone levels” in cheating males does nothing to remove the unfair, irreducible musculoskeletal and cardiovascular advantages conferred by male puberty. He’s perfectly fine with those. Let’s hear his justification for that. Women have nothing to “prove” to him.
Humans can’t change sex. Men can’t become women, so there’s no need to “include” them in women’s sport. Women’s sport is exclusive of men precisely for the “fair and safe competition” he seems so concerned to promote. Fine. Easy. No men in women’s sports. Job done, because the simple, straightforward solution for this non-problem was already in place: no men allowed. What was wrong with that? Show your work. It’s assholes like you who are determined to steal women’s sports that are the real problem. Your meddling intervention is not needed. You’re in favour of unfair and unsafe competition for women. As if defunding a rape crisis centre for women was inadequate proof of your hatred of women. So just sit down, shut up, and fuck off Oger, you disgusting, contemptible, evil man.
For that matter, there’s no data to support the theory that gorillas in sport put people at risk. So why are we not allowing gorillas to compete?
With Self ID, and er, “modern” methods of data collection, I think you’ll find that Fallon Fox et al were women harming other women, further obscuring the truth of the matter.