2 a.m. to 3 a.m. every other Tuesday
In case you’re thinking Edinburgh Rape Crisis has improved in the wake of all this attention –
Who[m] We Support And Our Services
Women only services
We have been trans inclusive since 2008. This means that we have a diverse group of women and non-binary workers and volunteers.
In a survivors initial meeting, the worker will give a clear overview of the services that we offer, including our trans inclusivity. This meeting will be held by a woman who has always lived as a woman and will include exploration of the type of support a survivor wishes and would benefit from. This conversation will also explore any concerns or preferences a survivor has around the support, and who they receive it from. The survivor is then supported by someone who meets their needs. It is important to us to provide safe access to all survivors of sexual violence, and we will continue to do so.
It’s fascinating, this sniffy from a great height pitying categorization of half the population as “women who have always lived as women.” In an organization that exists for the purpose of supporting rape victims.
Then the real spit in the eye:
Our women only times at our centre located at 17 Claremont Crescent are:
- Mondays 5pm -7 pm,
- Tuesdays 9am – 1pm,
- Fridays 9am – 12pm/noon .
Golly, nine whole hours every week. How very generous.
Surely that should be “women who have always lived as women only times”?
@1: What do you mean by that? Simply more nonsensical, confusing language?
Well you can’t expect them to change tack that quickly. Sandy hasn’t stopped smoldering from JKR’s bolt of lightning. They think that the First Law of Holes doesn’t apply to them because they can’t see they’re in a hole. They still believe they hold the high ground.
This “diverse group of women” includes men. This is exactly the kind of “diversity” that Beardy, Stand-up Comedian Soup-Boy is fighting for. He could go work for them if he gets let go from his university position. All he’d have to do is claim to be NB or female. Since their shared definition of “diversity” is so incoherently inclusive as to encompass people that fall outside of “women,” he would easily meet their (clearly) non-existent standards.
Goes to show that that spit in the eye is the whole point. Contempt, insult, and dismissal built into a fucking schedule. Slow clap.
They think they’re safe from scrutiny, accountability, and responsibility? They think JKR is done? How long before the committee that drew up this shitty little anouncement is sacked. And they don’t even know it.
GW @ 2 – See the second para of the first quoted passage.
So “woman who has always lived as a woman” is the new overly-wordy euphemism? WWHALAAW?
It is, of course, inaccurate, since being a woman is not dependent on what one “lives as”, currently or continuously or ever,
Srsly. They might as well make it “woman who has always claimed to be a woman” or “woman who has always pretended to be a woman.” Makes just as much sense.
Anything to avoid a biological definition that excludes
menwomen who have only recently discovered they really are women, but might happen to accidentally look a lot like men WHEN THEY’RE ACTUALLY WOMEN DAMMIT!@ GW #2 — NiV #1 means that where the ERCC wrote…
… the ERCC should have written…
… for the ERCC’s language to supposedly differentiate between types of “women”. NiV can spot a logical inconsistency like this right away. It took me a minute to spell it out for myself.
Loose lips sink ships, right? Rather gives the game away, just like the helpful trans “ally” condemning the trans hatred lurking behind “mak[ing] the idea of identifying as something that you’re not look so ridiculous and preposterous and obscene….”
https://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2024/cat-exits-bag-takes-a-bow-retires-from-stage/
Reality denial takes effort. Without constant self-policing and self-censorship, you’re at constant risk of carelessly slipping back into normal language use, giving your opponents ammunition exactly like this. Maybe it’s harder to believe one impossible thing 24/7 than six before breakfast. It’s ironic that trans “allies” try to browbeat the rest of us into accepting that men can be women when, in their heart of hearts, they don’t even believe it themselves.
Comments #1, #2 etc
My read of that tangled language is that they bill themselves as providing ‘women only’ times as listed, and their general definition of women includes trans women i.e. men, and they additionally specify that a female victim of rape is guaranteed a woman-who-is-actually-a-woman only on their first meeting. At all other meetings, she may meet a man in a dress, even during those ‘women only’ times.
And it strikes me I also didn’t focus enough on that up front taunt:
That is, We have been trans inclusive since 2008 so don’t go expecting to see only women here, you nasty right-wing bigoted bitches.
And I still can’t work out if their “women only times” are genuine women only. And I’m not in shock from an incredibly traumatic event. Newspeak ruins everything it touches.