The influence can’t be tackled
Why we can’t have anything nice ever:
Schools across the UK are encountering increasing numbers of pupils who admire [social media misogynist Andrew] Tate – and so teachers are having to work out how to respond.
Some are actively putting out guidance on how to talk about him, as part of a concerted attempt to tackle his influence.
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“A lot of the boys can see that there’s parts of Andrew Tate that they respect and admire, and then there’s parts that they don’t – they know that he says a lot of terrible things,” says Ms Carson, 46, who teaches Learning for Life and Work – Northern Ireland’s equivalent of PSHE in England’s schools.
They know he says a lot of terrible things that their teachers disapprove of, but that’s what they like. We can’t have feminism without having also the reaction against it.
Like this guy. He does it as a deliberate provocation, and says so. There are always going to be Tates and Urquharts.
I thought they say you can’t have your Tate and Urquhart, too?
I’ll see myself out.
I haven’t seen white women claiming they are the most oppressed group ever; the only group I see saying that is men who pretend they are women.
All women claim is a lifelong systemic oppression, without needing to say “it’s the worst ever!” Most women I know are aware of Nazi Germany, of the antebellum south, of the ongoing systemic racism, of the many ways in which people are oppressed. Seeing ourselves as a member of the group of oppressed people does not suggest that our subset is the most oppressed.
Reality – how does it work?
He knowingly uses the stereotype of white feminists = middle aged middle class wine drinkers.
Of course, even white middle class women are oppressed in a number of ways. Women are mocked, humiliated, kept out of jobs, treated as second class citizens…all things poor women deal with as well, but without poverty added on.
White middle class women suffer from domestic violence. They suffer from rape. They suffer from being told “if you come back with a man’s name on your work, we might publish it”. They suffer from being expected to carry the bulk of the housework and child care. They suffer from being talked over, interrupted, talked down to, treated like a child (and not a particularly bright one at that), having their credentials questioned, having ideas that no one will listen to until a man steals them and presents them as his own, having to live up to (or down to) societal expectations of dress, makeup, shoes, and behavior…and more.
So even though he can get a lot of mileage out of conflating white middle aged women with NOT OPPRESSED AT ALL, he is still wrong. All classes, all races, of women face obstacles. Ginger Rogers was white and wealthy, but she still had to dance backwards and in high heels.
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Add to that how the existence of struggling working-class white women and poor white women is something that is never even brought up. Those two classes of white women are also not the most oppressed subgroup of humanity ever, but they have never had the societal power that a tiny number of white men in womanface currently enjoy.
Oh, this might be off-topic, but it does concern the trans cult and how they wield power — saw a tweet from a TRA claiming that criticism of the billionaire Pritzker clan’s support of the trans cult is proof of gender crits being “anti-Semitic” because the TRA claims the Pritzkers are Jewish. So, yeah, be ready for that desperate ploy to be wheeled out more often as the cult boys and girls get more desperate at increased pushback to their usually false claims.