No amount is enough
I hope Giuliani is sweating even more than he was that time the hair dye ran down his face.
How much should it cost to defame two innocent citizens in the service of a dangerous fallacy that sought to undermine a U.S. presidential election?
That’s the question jurors are set to answer in the defamation and conspiracy trial of former Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani. Jury selection took place on Monday in the federal district court in Washington, D.C.
This phase of the civil case centers on the penalty. District Judge Beryl Howell has already found Giuliani liable for defamation and civil conspiracy for repeatedly making false statements about two Georgia election workers: Ruby Freeman and Wandrea “Shaye” Moss, who are also mother and daughter.
Giuliani also admitted over the summer that, while working on behalf of former President Donald Trump, he spread lies about Freeman and Moss. He had previously said the women were caught on video pulling out “suitcases” of pro-Biden ballots. State and federal inquiries concluded there was no truth to the allegations, which Giuliani and his allies kept repeating.
What a pile of dung he is. That’s a horrible accusation, and they’re two obscure citizens doing their jobs, and oh by the way they’re not white. What an awful thing to do – all for the sake of helping the worst person in the world ruin everything for everyone.
Freeman and Moss say Giuliani inflicted emotional harm, damaged their reputations, and exposed them to death threats. They’re seeking tens of millions of dollars in punitive damages.
I hope they get them. I hope they bankrupt him.
Trump also attacked the women. I wonder why Giuliani & Trump chose to pick on two black women.
Gosh, I can’t think of any reason why they would do that. It must be just a coincidence.
Thank you, Athel (really)!!! Still, your answer might go down well in certain quarters where ignoring realities seems to be some sort of infantile strategy…
It’s certainly not due to the “leftist woke” invention that there is racism against African Americans in these United States.
Giuliani, who had a brilliant career in weakening the Mafia in New York, certainly has destroyed his legacy in his association with Donnie Two Scoops. He is an embarrassment to the man that was referred to as America’s Mayor following the 9/11 attacks.
His great-grandchildren should be financially supporting theirs. In short, there is no limit to how much he should have to pay. Let his family bear the burden as well.
MeidasTouch video on the terrible damage done to Shaye Moss & Ruby Freeman by Giuliani and his followers. it really is no good to pretend that damaging lies are somehow protected by ‘free speech’, and that so long as the truth wins out in the end, the damage can be forgotten:
https://youtu.be/cD21PEFoQhM?si=qjDr8juQWZKGMkIg
This from the Guardian:
‘During cross-examination on Tuesday afternoon, Joseph Sibley, Giuliani’s lawyer, sought to undercut the idea that Moss was entitled to tens of millions of dollars in damages. He pressed her to explain why it would cost millions to repair her reputation.
‘“I personally cannot repair my reputation at the moment because your client is still lying on me and ruining my reputation further,” she said. “We need to make a statement. We need to ensure that the election workers that are still there don’t have to go through this. Hopefully by hitting someone in their pockets, for someone whose whole career has been about their pockets, we will send a message.”’