Did she lose, though? I am sure the behavior of the true thugs on the gender cult side will peak trans many many more people. Seems a 70 year old woman was punched in the face by a man at this event. Also, the way men like India mock and cheer as women are abused is just going to make it way easier for me to stand by and do nothing should the pendulum swing back and suddenly it is India getting his butt kicked. Quite a few women today are rethinking if voting R in the next USA elections is the better course for women in the long run. More women are also realizing that the women who think they can have their pet TIMs who are “one of the good ones” that they would let into women’s spaces are very naive.
I was going to say, this doesn’t look like ‘losing’ to me. I hope people are seeing the analogies to the suffragettes and the American civil rights movement.
Mr. Willoughby is, as usual, completely and utterly wrong. He’s so incapable of rational thought, he can’t even come up with an original insult.
Anyway, that looks like a win to me. If anyone were in any doubt about the violent misogyny of the narcissistic, sociopathic men on the anti-women side, the behaviour of the thugs at any of Kellie-Jay’s Let Women Speak rallies is a perfect illustration.
She invites anyone on that side to speak if they have a rational argument for their beliefs, but also says that they are welcome to turn up and carry on proving her point that they are too dangerous to be allowed into women’s spaces.
Well, a hell of a lot of trans activist, apparently. I see terror, and I can’t enjoy anyone’s terror.
She hasn’t lost, of course. This can’t be unseen, no matter how the media there – and everywhere – report it. I hear that the Guardian has a hit piece about KJK to celebrate (well, you know, Guardian) but I’m seeing a lot of outrage too.
A lot of ‘reframing’, of course. We’re going to see a lot of reframing for the next few weeks.
But the footage can’t be unseen.
And over the coming months, trans rights activists are finally going to learn something about women: that this is not going to silence them.
I’m more determined than ever to go to the #LetWomenSpeak event in Dublin now, although I might struggle to get there. I’ll shuffle up the steps to the plane on my arse, if I have to.
You have my sympathy, latsot. I haven’t flown in years, because it’s so difficult for those of us who use a wheelchair. When I did, if there was no sky bridge, I’d be taken out to the plane in a kind of big box on wheels, with the other disabled people, and this thing would rise up like a lift, presumably with hydraulic rams. The wheelchair they lent me in the airport* would be taken away, and I’d have to use a tiny chair-on-wheels which was narrow enough to get into the plane. Then the reverse process at the other end. Blech.
*I learned that it was better to wrap my wheelchair into its proper, labelled bag, and send it off with the luggage, than try to wrap it whilst sitting in one of the seats in the weird box thing. Also that it’s vital to have a bag, or they will mislay parts. It’s boring enough hanging around without your friends or family during the special bits, but it’s worse having to hang around while they find your cushion or whatever.
As I said, we stopped flying. Before I got my wheelchair accessible car, we took the coach or train to Dublin, travelled by ferry to Wales, and then took the train to our destination in England. That way, the journey was part of the holiday and not merely a nightmare.
“Quite a few women today are rethinking if voting R in the next USA elections is the better course for women in the long run.”
If this is true, then it’s appallingly short-sighted. Sorry, but as horrible as the TRAs are, women collectively in this country would still be infinitely better off with them in charge than they will be with the far-right sociopaths who currently rule the GOP. It isn’t TRAs who advocated for the repeal of Roe v. Wade, or who had anti-abortion legislation ready on deck as soon as that repeal was achieved. It’s not TRAs who think that rape is a way for God to ‘bless’ a woman with an unwanted child. And TRAs aren’t the ones blocking every effort to regulate fossil fuels and address income inequality–and it’s women who will suffer more as those issues get worse, because in any crisis, women always end up suffering more.
Yes, these scum are vile. The one who assaulted KJK should be arrested and tossed into (men’s) prison. But burning the planet and selling women into chattel slavery just to make the point about how horrible these assholes are isn’t really going to help a goddamned thing.
Freemage, I’d like to ask you the same question I asked of a woman on Facebook, who expressed very similar sentiments to yours: what have the Democrats ever actually done to enshrine the right to bodily autonomy for women into the constitution so that Roe v. Wade was irrelevant and the matter couldn’t be sent back to the states? She didn’t answer, but told me that since I’m not in the US I didn’t have any skin in the game and should butt out.
Why are people so ready to form extreme views of those they see as the opposition? Is it the lack of any meaningful third political parties? I don’t hear such extreme polarisation over here; is it because we have four main political parties and a dozen minor ones, in a country with fewer than five million people? From what I can see, no parties have a good record on women’s rights, and the Democrats are promising to remove almost all of them. The Democrats don’t even have a particularly good record of protecting the environment, so I’m not sure that keeping the Republicans out will ensure that you’ll avoid the scenario you suggest, nor that it isn’t TRAs who want to ‘bless’ a woman with a rape-baby; indeed, there’s at least one on record as saying that’s exactly what he wants to do.
Did she lose, though? I am sure the behavior of the true thugs on the gender cult side will peak trans many many more people. Seems a 70 year old woman was punched in the face by a man at this event. Also, the way men like India mock and cheer as women are abused is just going to make it way easier for me to stand by and do nothing should the pendulum swing back and suddenly it is India getting his butt kicked. Quite a few women today are rethinking if voting R in the next USA elections is the better course for women in the long run. More women are also realizing that the women who think they can have their pet TIMs who are “one of the good ones” that they would let into women’s spaces are very naive.
I was going to say, this doesn’t look like ‘losing’ to me. I hope people are seeing the analogies to the suffragettes and the American civil rights movement.
Mr. Willoughby is, as usual, completely and utterly wrong. He’s so incapable of rational thought, he can’t even come up with an original insult.
Anyway, that looks like a win to me. If anyone were in any doubt about the violent misogyny of the narcissistic, sociopathic men on the anti-women side, the behaviour of the thugs at any of Kellie-Jay’s Let Women Speak rallies is a perfect illustration.
She invites anyone on that side to speak if they have a rational argument for their beliefs, but also says that they are welcome to turn up and carry on proving her point that they are too dangerous to be allowed into women’s spaces.
Where the **** were the POLICE???
Who could look at that picture and find it funny?
Well, a hell of a lot of trans activist, apparently. I see terror, and I can’t enjoy anyone’s terror.
She hasn’t lost, of course. This can’t be unseen, no matter how the media there – and everywhere – report it. I hear that the Guardian has a hit piece about KJK to celebrate (well, you know, Guardian) but I’m seeing a lot of outrage too.
A lot of ‘reframing’, of course. We’re going to see a lot of reframing for the next few weeks.
But the footage can’t be unseen.
And over the coming months, trans rights activists are finally going to learn something about women: that this is not going to silence them.
I’m more determined than ever to go to the #LetWomenSpeak event in Dublin now, although I might struggle to get there. I’ll shuffle up the steps to the plane on my arse, if I have to.
You have my sympathy, latsot. I haven’t flown in years, because it’s so difficult for those of us who use a wheelchair. When I did, if there was no sky bridge, I’d be taken out to the plane in a kind of big box on wheels, with the other disabled people, and this thing would rise up like a lift, presumably with hydraulic rams. The wheelchair they lent me in the airport* would be taken away, and I’d have to use a tiny chair-on-wheels which was narrow enough to get into the plane. Then the reverse process at the other end. Blech.
*I learned that it was better to wrap my wheelchair into its proper, labelled bag, and send it off with the luggage, than try to wrap it whilst sitting in one of the seats in the weird box thing. Also that it’s vital to have a bag, or they will mislay parts. It’s boring enough hanging around without your friends or family during the special bits, but it’s worse having to hang around while they find your cushion or whatever.
As I said, we stopped flying. Before I got my wheelchair accessible car, we took the coach or train to Dublin, travelled by ferry to Wales, and then took the train to our destination in England. That way, the journey was part of the holiday and not merely a nightmare.
The Guardian piece from New Zealand is absolutely godawful.
Southwest88@#1:
“Quite a few women today are rethinking if voting R in the next USA elections is the better course for women in the long run.”
If this is true, then it’s appallingly short-sighted. Sorry, but as horrible as the TRAs are, women collectively in this country would still be infinitely better off with them in charge than they will be with the far-right sociopaths who currently rule the GOP. It isn’t TRAs who advocated for the repeal of Roe v. Wade, or who had anti-abortion legislation ready on deck as soon as that repeal was achieved. It’s not TRAs who think that rape is a way for God to ‘bless’ a woman with an unwanted child. And TRAs aren’t the ones blocking every effort to regulate fossil fuels and address income inequality–and it’s women who will suffer more as those issues get worse, because in any crisis, women always end up suffering more.
Yes, these scum are vile. The one who assaulted KJK should be arrested and tossed into (men’s) prison. But burning the planet and selling women into chattel slavery just to make the point about how horrible these assholes are isn’t really going to help a goddamned thing.
Freemage, I’d like to ask you the same question I asked of a woman on Facebook, who expressed very similar sentiments to yours: what have the Democrats ever actually done to enshrine the right to bodily autonomy for women into the constitution so that Roe v. Wade was irrelevant and the matter couldn’t be sent back to the states? She didn’t answer, but told me that since I’m not in the US I didn’t have any skin in the game and should butt out.
Why are people so ready to form extreme views of those they see as the opposition? Is it the lack of any meaningful third political parties? I don’t hear such extreme polarisation over here; is it because we have four main political parties and a dozen minor ones, in a country with fewer than five million people? From what I can see, no parties have a good record on women’s rights, and the Democrats are promising to remove almost all of them. The Democrats don’t even have a particularly good record of protecting the environment, so I’m not sure that keeping the Republicans out will ensure that you’ll avoid the scenario you suggest, nor that it isn’t TRAs who want to ‘bless’ a woman with a rape-baby; indeed, there’s at least one on record as saying that’s exactly what he wants to do.