Good luck with that
It’s probably an exercise in futility.
In schools across Britain, educators are mobilizing to fight back against [Andrew] Tate’s messages, belatedly realizing the outsize influence he has among their students. A British-American former kickboxer, Mr. Tate gained a following of millions with videos glorifying wealth and a particularly virulent brand of male chauvinism, before being barred last summer from many mainstream social media sites.
It’s nice that they’re mobilizing, but I think it’s hopeless. They’re the schools, and Tate is the opposite. Schools, parents, adults, females – it’s all the same thing. It’s all duty, respectability, boredom, obedience. Nah we’ll take the other side thanks.
Believing that schools are a microcosm of society — and a preview of its future — educators said it was crucial to target Mr. Tate’s influence early. Since last fall, principals have sent letters to parents warning of his reach, and Britain’s education secretary has said that influencers like Mr. Tate could reverse the progress made in countering sexism.
What progress? There hasn’t been that much. Some, but it’s always a battle. We certainly have never reached the sunlit uplands where contempt for women is a thing of the past.
British schools were already reckoning with what officials have recognized as an endemic culture of sexual harassment of students, leaving both young girls and boys feeling victimized and often unsure of the rules of interaction. Now, educators unexpectedly find themselves spending class time discussing Mr. Tate rather than their lessons.
“I am sad that I have taken up important curriculum time to talk about Andrew Tate,” said Chloe Stanton, an English teacher in East London. “But women have to fight enough in society without this type of attitude to deal with.”
Indeed, but teachers talking about it aren’t going to make a dent. I wish they could, but they can’t.
In recent months, Ms. Stanton said, students have started bringing up Mr. Tate in class. They extol his wealth and fast cars. And for the first time in her 20 years of teaching, her 11- to 16-year-old students have challenged her for working and asked if she had her husband’s permission.
She has heard students talk casually about rape. “As the only woman in the room, I felt uncomfortable,” she said. Once, a student asked her if she was going to cry. At home, even her own three sons seemed to defend Mr. Tate.
“He is brainwashing a generation of boys, and it’s very frightening,” she said. “They seem to think he is right. He’s right because he’s rich.”
Can we all just be hermits? Let’s do that.
We need to recognize that the species Homo sapiens is as much savage as it is intellectual, and we have to pull out all the cultural stops to prevent these assholes. There is something too easy about this backsliding into the sexual slough, as if it were somehow innate.
Imagine if I had treated boys back in the seventies the way these young boys treat girls these days.
Well, Tate is actually in custody, not living in Britain, and not a member of an ‘opwesséd’ minority.
Catholics, Fundies and Muslims can carry on raising violent misogynist boys without interruption.
JtD, I’m not sure being in custody helps. It just makes him a martyr, and could make him even more of a hero to the boys. I’ve seen that happen over and over.
“He’s right because he’s rich,” says Ms Stanton, regarding the attitudes of boys to Tate. (One should add ‘conspicuously rich’.) That statement is very relevant to the near deification of such as Musk & Trump
Watch out for Coel. Them’s fightin’ words.