It’s always amazing how minds of a liberal bent can so easily be hacked by specific words. Bigot. Racist. Transphobe. Accuse someone of these, and you all but create a slave.
@3: Those words work when they’re used in favor of trans ideology. “You won’t let me into your women’s pool, you fucking transmisogynist!” Hmm, I’m not sure of they would say simply “You fucking misogynist” for not allowing a supposed woman (actually a man) into the pool.
I intentionally omitted sexist and misogynist, for the obvious reason that they don’t have the same effect. Funny that.
Yes, who’s afraid of being accused of being either of those? Precious fucking few. Same old, same old. Maybe it’s because rooting out sexism and misogyny would take too much effort, demand too much change to The Way Things Are Done. Hell, dealing with racism is like pulling teeth. Sexism? that’s pretty much foundational. It would cost too much for those of us who benefit from the sexism and misogyny built into the system (i.e. men) to rebuild the system without it. “That just sounds like too much work. After all it’s only women, ammirite?” /s
See also homophobe, xenophobe. There isn’t really a single-word epithet for class-based hostility or contempt – “classism” isn’t used much and isn’t very clear anyway. We should make prolephobia a thing. (“Femmephobia” is part of the trans vocabulary I think – a very annoying part.)
@3: Those words work when they’re used in favor of trans ideology. “You won’t let me into your women’s pool, you fucking transmisogynist!” Hmm, I’m not sure of they would say simply “You fucking misogynist” for not allowing a supposed woman (actually a man) into the pool.
I believe that “Transphobe” is the usage to be expected. I think that would require a few more decades of having TWAW! pounded into our skulls for the use of an unmodified “misogyny.* It’s the trans part of “transmisogyny” that’s supposed to grab attention and garner support from allies and useful idiots. The “misogyny” part is just a bit of self-affirmation snuck in at the end.
@3 because women don’t pose any kind of threat. (Neither do disabled people; we do hear ‘ableist’ once in a while but it’s generally used about the kind of ‘neurodivergent’ men who claim to have no self-control and would happily hurt you while claiming to be oppressed.)
It’s easy to make hollow challenges on twitter. I know places in the world where, if this brute tried to enter a women’s or girl’s changing room, he’d have more than being shamed to worry about. Some of us “bigots” and “wankers” can be alarmingly protective.
There isn’t really a single-word epithet for class-based hostility or contempt – “classism” isn’t used much and isn’t very clear anyway. We should make prolephobia a thing
But elitist is a single-word epithet thrown at anyone who is educated or who disagrees with whatever ideology is being pushed. Don’t want men in the women’s bathrooms? Elitist. Don’t want ignorant people in the White House? Elitist. Don’t eat peanut butter or catsup because they are inherently not edible? Elitist.
The one group that doesn’t seem to get called elitist is the group that it should apply to – wealthy robber barons. I think of elitism as being a property of being born wealthy, not a property of getting an education, but the terminology has been so mangled most people don’t see it that way anymore. The wealthy can be…or act…ignorant and childish, and the charge of elitism just vanishes in a puff of smoke.
Oh yes, elitist, I forgot that one. As you indicate, it doesn’t exactly mean class, or it means class but in a peculiarly narrow and superficial way, but it’s at least related.
It’s about culture and snobbery, mostly, while contempt for the working class is far more searching and intense than that. I guess “class hatred” can be a single word for it if we hyphenate it.
Kind of gives the lie to the alleged power imbalance in TIM’s disfavor, doesn’t it. Any black person in South Africa during Apartheid who told whites there was absolutely nothing they could do to keep him out of spaces reserved for whites, would quickly discover that there was indeed quite a lot they could do to stop him, and he was not going to enjoy it. If TIM’s really were that oppressed and powerless, and if females really did enjoy such power and privilege, they would be the ones telling him what he couldn’t do.
Reminds me of this: https://www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2021/known-simply-as-the-womens-baths/
It’s always amazing how minds of a liberal bent can so easily be hacked by specific words. Bigot. Racist. Transphobe. Accuse someone of these, and you all but create a slave.
Addendum: I intentionally omitted sexist and misogynist, for the obvious reason that they don’t have the same effect. Funny that.
@3: Those words work when they’re used in favor of trans ideology. “You won’t let me into your women’s pool, you fucking transmisogynist!” Hmm, I’m not sure of they would say simply “You fucking misogynist” for not allowing a supposed woman (actually a man) into the pool.
Yes, who’s afraid of being accused of being either of those? Precious fucking few. Same old, same old. Maybe it’s because rooting out sexism and misogyny would take too much effort, demand too much change to The Way Things Are Done. Hell, dealing with racism is like pulling teeth. Sexism? that’s pretty much foundational. It would cost too much for those of us who benefit from the sexism and misogyny built into the system (i.e. men) to rebuild the system without it. “That just sounds like too much work. After all it’s only women, ammirite?” /s
See also homophobe, xenophobe. There isn’t really a single-word epithet for class-based hostility or contempt – “classism” isn’t used much and isn’t very clear anyway. We should make prolephobia a thing. (“Femmephobia” is part of the trans vocabulary I think – a very annoying part.)
I believe that “Transphobe” is the usage to be expected. I think that would require a few more decades of having TWAW! pounded into our skulls for the use of an unmodified “misogyny.* It’s the trans part of “transmisogyny” that’s supposed to grab attention and garner support from allies and useful idiots. The “misogyny” part is just a bit of self-affirmation snuck in at the end.
I looked up “gynophobia”. As far as I can tell, it’s used only for an actual phobia in the psychological (medical?) sense:
https://www.healthgrades.com/right-care/anxiety-disorders/gynophobia-fear-of-women
@3 because women don’t pose any kind of threat. (Neither do disabled people; we do hear ‘ableist’ once in a while but it’s generally used about the kind of ‘neurodivergent’ men who claim to have no self-control and would happily hurt you while claiming to be oppressed.)
It’s easy to make hollow challenges on twitter. I know places in the world where, if this brute tried to enter a women’s or girl’s changing room, he’d have more than being shamed to worry about. Some of us “bigots” and “wankers” can be alarmingly protective.
But elitist is a single-word epithet thrown at anyone who is educated or who disagrees with whatever ideology is being pushed. Don’t want men in the women’s bathrooms? Elitist. Don’t want ignorant people in the White House? Elitist. Don’t eat peanut butter or catsup because they are inherently not edible? Elitist.
The one group that doesn’t seem to get called elitist is the group that it should apply to – wealthy robber barons. I think of elitism as being a property of being born wealthy, not a property of getting an education, but the terminology has been so mangled most people don’t see it that way anymore. The wealthy can be…or act…ignorant and childish, and the charge of elitism just vanishes in a puff of smoke.
Oh yes, elitist, I forgot that one. As you indicate, it doesn’t exactly mean class, or it means class but in a peculiarly narrow and superficial way, but it’s at least related.
It’s about culture and snobbery, mostly, while contempt for the working class is far more searching and intense than that. I guess “class hatred” can be a single word for it if we hyphenate it.
Kind of gives the lie to the alleged power imbalance in TIM’s disfavor, doesn’t it. Any black person in South Africa during Apartheid who told whites there was absolutely nothing they could do to keep him out of spaces reserved for whites, would quickly discover that there was indeed quite a lot they could do to stop him, and he was not going to enjoy it. If TIM’s really were that oppressed and powerless, and if females really did enjoy such power and privilege, they would be the ones telling him what he couldn’t do.