As someone on Twitter pointed out, JKR says live and love whomever you like and builds domestic and sexual violence centres. Willoughby advocates the mass drowning of refugees.
Well, you see Latsot, they’re not real refugees, they’re economic refugees.
That’s the way the debate is framed in Aus, and the Poms are following our playbook all the way to the next election.
To me, people fleeing political oppression and people fleeing grinding poverty are both refugees and many of their problems, political and economic, are a result of actions taken by wealthier nations, like UK, USA, Aus.
We have newspaper articles celebrating how welcoming we are to Ukrainian refugees while we still lock up those of Arabic extraction who only became refugees because of our attack on Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, etc.
Many EU nations tried to frame the Syrian wave as economic migrants. In a way they were of course. When your nation has had a sustained drought and descended into civil war there is a natural tendency to flee somewhere better. totally economic, not anything to do with food, water, protection of the lives of you and your family.
Turkey has just held its elections – not that you’d know looking at our news media. The main point to note other than Erdogan most probably winning the second round, is the rise in Nationalist political parties. One of their platforms is anti-refugee. Even NZ is proposing to change laws to treat people who turn up by boat differently to those who come through official channels. Sort of a very lite version of Australia’s policy.
As an aside, my work has actually employed a Ukrainian refugee. I’m pleased we’ve done so and the people she works with have made her and her family very welcome helping to find them a palce to live, furniture clothes and kids toys etc, but NZ never created a special visa category for Syrians.
It will be interesting in the future what happens to our society. NZ is VERY low key over religion, but along with the rise in evangelical christianity, many of the migrants that we rely on to drive our economy come from very religious societies, and typically quite conservative ones (christian, muslim, and other).
One of my best experiences in NZ was working with three Africans – One white Afrikanaaer, One “Cape Coloured”, and one black as midnight Zimbabwean. All three were thick as thieves, possibly the stick together as immigrants pattern.
The most hilarious part was the Zimbawean would play loud rock style music on a job site, the Kiwis from other trades thought he was one of them, sounding like The Rock FM. Of course, non of them understood the language and non of them realised they were all quite devout Christian songs! :-)
We have more in common than we are sometimes prepared to admit.
I think that’s largely true, except when people decide either that they are superior in some way, decide to prioritise class, or religion, or whatever over understanding, or are just plain judgemental based on some random classification. Doesn’t mean you have to be besties with everyone, but most people have some place you can make a connection over.
He reminds me of Liz Truss. The same vacuous face, the same laboured, emphatic delivery. Not, perhaps, quite so robotic as Truss, but close to it.
He’s so vile.
Build a wall, huh?
As someone on Twitter pointed out, JKR says live and love whomever you like and builds domestic and sexual violence centres. Willoughby advocates the mass drowning of refugees.
And JKR is the one who’s a monster.
Well, you see Latsot, they’re not real refugees, they’re economic refugees.
That’s the way the debate is framed in Aus, and the Poms are following our playbook all the way to the next election.
To me, people fleeing political oppression and people fleeing grinding poverty are both refugees and many of their problems, political and economic, are a result of actions taken by wealthier nations, like UK, USA, Aus.
We have newspaper articles celebrating how welcoming we are to Ukrainian refugees while we still lock up those of Arabic extraction who only became refugees because of our attack on Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, etc.
Quite so Rev.
Many EU nations tried to frame the Syrian wave as economic migrants. In a way they were of course. When your nation has had a sustained drought and descended into civil war there is a natural tendency to flee somewhere better. totally economic, not anything to do with food, water, protection of the lives of you and your family.
Turkey has just held its elections – not that you’d know looking at our news media. The main point to note other than Erdogan most probably winning the second round, is the rise in Nationalist political parties. One of their platforms is anti-refugee. Even NZ is proposing to change laws to treat people who turn up by boat differently to those who come through official channels. Sort of a very lite version of Australia’s policy.
As an aside, my work has actually employed a Ukrainian refugee. I’m pleased we’ve done so and the people she works with have made her and her family very welcome helping to find them a palce to live, furniture clothes and kids toys etc, but NZ never created a special visa category for Syrians.
It will be interesting in the future what happens to our society. NZ is VERY low key over religion, but along with the rise in evangelical christianity, many of the migrants that we rely on to drive our economy come from very religious societies, and typically quite conservative ones (christian, muslim, and other).
One of my best experiences in NZ was working with three Africans – One white Afrikanaaer, One “Cape Coloured”, and one black as midnight Zimbabwean. All three were thick as thieves, possibly the stick together as immigrants pattern.
The most hilarious part was the Zimbawean would play loud rock style music on a job site, the Kiwis from other trades thought he was one of them, sounding like The Rock FM. Of course, non of them understood the language and non of them realised they were all quite devout Christian songs! :-)
We have more in common than we are sometimes prepared to admit.
I think that’s largely true, except when people decide either that they are superior in some way, decide to prioritise class, or religion, or whatever over understanding, or are just plain judgemental based on some random classification. Doesn’t mean you have to be besties with everyone, but most people have some place you can make a connection over.