He clearly has not read George Orwell or Leon Trotsky on the subject; and numerous other contemporariers and victims. He could improve his mind greatly by doing so.
What does “uniting and fighting” even mean to these people? What did #Resistance accomplish in four years that wasn’t ultimately outshone by a boring establishment politician and the many voters who were sick of Trump?
I’m currently making arrangements to have a conversation with some other men about fatherhood and the threat of gender identity dogma to boys. I am not using my real name, because of the real-life repercussions people in my family could face if the MRA/TRAs start knocking it about. I don’t use my real name here. I have appeared on or written in, or contributed to, other media, without using my real name, for the same reasons.
Tell me more about feeling hunted.
It’s all DARVO with these creeps. They sterilize children with puberty blockers and say someone else is committing genocide. They beat up women trying to speak and say someone else is repressive. They force lesbians to have sex with men, and then say someone else is homophobic. They hound non-believers out of their jobs and homes and say someone else is persecuting them. When they say it’s time to “unite and fight,” they mean it’s time to depersonalize their opponents and ramp up the violence against them – and then blame the victims doubly for making them do it.
No law says they can’t be trans, just that they can’t impose it on others. Of course they are being murdered off in droves by simply being told “no.” Such a pity.
The laws are being written to protect women and children from them, yet they’re still the good guys? I think not.
twiliter, again, just like religion. The secular community insists a creche must be removed from city property. Some local church says, “Hey, bring it here! We’ll put it up!” Okay, what sort of gotcha is that? It’s what’s being requested, but they have such a sense of persecution that any little thing is fuel…just like trans.
I think the trans “community” needs to feel persecuted (preferably without actually being persecuted). Some people get a real buzz out of being persecuted…or, should I say, out of the perceived persecution.
It’s all DARVO with these creeps. They sterilize children with puberty blockers and say someone else is committing genocide. They beat up women trying to speak and say someone else is repressive. They force lesbians to have sex with men, and then say someone else is homophobic. They hound non-believers out of their jobs and homes and say someone else is persecuting them. When they say it’s time to “unite and fight,” they mean it’s time to depersonalize their opponents and ramp up the violence against them – and then blame the victims doubly for making them do it.
Of course they are being murdered off in droves by simply being told “no.”
It’s just like Tinkerbell. If you refuse to believe, they cease to exist. If you actually question or resist their demands, you’re actively genociding them.
Where exactly do these precious”refugees” think they’re going to go? Where else are they going to find a media as compliant and enabling as those in the UK, US, Canada (insert the names the many other countries whose major news providers who rewrite their headlines and stories to appease genderists, tip-toe around the actual sex of TiM criminals, and use preferred pronouns to the exclusion of the truth here)? They’d be moving from places where they have unearned and unwarranted power and influence to places where they have little or none. How’s that going to work? How will their new unprimed and uncaptured host socities take to their demands for special privileges? Not nearly as kindly as those of the “regimes” they’re packing their bags to “flee” from.
No, it’s not pogroms and genocide they’re facing, it’s disagreement. The language of the Holocaust is just the latest in a long list of opportunistic appropriations that trans activism has engaed in. What movement haven’t they plundered for expedient (if wildly inaccurate) comparisons and terminolgy? Civil rights, feminism, gay rights, anti-imperialism, anti-racism, intersectionality, child protection, DSDs; all have had language and concepts lifted from them and pressed into service consealing and obfuscating the demands and desires of men. It’s a “social justice” movement that is neither social or just. It cannot withstand any kind of concerted scrutiny, and it must hide the truth and nature of its actual goals and beneficiaries at all costs. And they’ve had truly remarkable success in doing just that, acheiving a degree of influence and cooperation that would be the envy of any real social justice movement. But to hide this power and success, they must portray themselves as the Most Marginalized, the Most Vulnerable, and the Most Likely To Comit Suicide or Be Murdered Ever. And they’ve been wildly successful at this as well. It’s uncritically accepted that trans people are just marginalized as fuck. It’s the foundation and starting point of almost all discussions of trans “issues.” It goes without saying. They’ve even recruited many outside their “movement” to do the dirty work of vilifying and demonizing their opponents (mostly women) in the guise of being on the “right side of history.” Where else are these would be “refugees” going to find that?
But now, people are starting to wake up. They’re starting to ask questions. The wheels are coming off the trans bandwagon and trans activists have to make their case, out in the open. Their behind the scenes, extra-legal campaigning for policy influence, along with their tactically useful but strategically disastrous policy of “NO DEBATE!” has left them unable to do so. With the constant bullying, and moral blackmail, trans activists have painted themselves into a corner of its own making, having spent too much of their hyperbole on relatively mild questioning and pushback that they branded as “actual violence,” because it wasn’t actually violent. in their heedless zeal to shame and bully women defending their rights and dignity, they escalated too soon, and have few rhetorical weapons left to use. So now things are so bad, they suddenly have to “escape” into exile, with, disappointingly, absolutely nobody hot on their heels. They’re threatening to jump out of the basement window of a building that is not on fire, and nobody cares. It turns out the only thing worse than being persecuted is not being persecuted. “BEAT DOWN MY DOOR! YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO VALIDATE MY IDENTITY AS APOWERLESS, MARGINALIZED VICTIM!! I DEMAND YOUR HATRED AND CONTEMPT!!! CENTRE ME, GODDAMMIT!!!!” It’s not paranoia when someone is actually out to get you. But when nobody is actually out to get you, and you wish they were? What’s that?
At this point, trans activists have little option left but to go nuclear. They have no victimhood of their own, so if they need it, they have to steal it. Given their combined history of terminological pilferage and threat inflation, it’s no surprise that they now wrap themselves in the mantle of the victims of the greatest crime of the Twentieth Century. But this may be a theft too far. If any one looks, there’s nothing to see. There’s literally no comparison. There has been no Kristallnacht. Nobody is rounding them up. No yellow stars. There are no camps. There are no tattoos. There are no showers. There are no ovens. They are not Jews in pre-war Germany. The sky is not falling. In the West, they’re one of the safest demographics, and they can’t stand it. They’re waking up to the fact that nobody hates them as much as they’ve told themselves (and everyone else) that some do. Their Rememberences are hollow and pointless; their are no victims to commemorate. The Tomb of the Unknown lies empty, waiting.
Meanwhile, the steady toll of murdered women, barely commented upon (and best left that way), underlies the impotent humilitaion of trans safety and privilege, a terrible drumbeat spurring a perverse, envious death wish. Trauma and persecution are just another costume to don, a pose to strike (or discard) as needed, a juicy role for boutique refugees deciding exactly which heels to pack and which to wear when they make their stroll for the border, contemplating the glamourous life of cafe exiles, trading tales of imagined hardships and close calls. What would they do in the face of the all-too-real violence and intimidation that millions of women face every day? If they had any empathy at all, they would not wish any version of this upon themselves, even as a costume, or blithely compare the sudden akwardness of their having to respond to political pushback to the persecution and murder of millions of Jews.
It’s just like Tinkerbell. If you refuse to believe, they cease to exist. If you actually question or resist their demands, you’re actively genociding them.
It’s also a bit like God. A country that refuses to “acknowledge” its Creator makes God impotent, for He cannot (or will not) hold His hand of protection over the rebellious souls of those who reject Him. Like the trans-identified, the religiously devout cannot just accept that others don’t believe and won’t pretend to. No, heretics know full well what they’re doing. They do believe — and a refusal to admit that is only the first part. Next comes forcibly removing Bibles and pronouns, then marching off the devout into death camps. Why? Because Satan is their master and standing right behind them.
There has been no Kristallnacht. Nobody is rounding them up. No yellow stars. There are no camps. There are no tattoos. There are no showers. There are no ovens. They are not Jews in pre-war Germany. The sky is not falling.
There’s a wonderful line in the movie Widows that goes something like (from memory): “Everyone has a sob-story, and most of them are better than yours”. If fucking pronouns and JK Rowling are even on your list of concerns, then at least to an excellent first approximation every other person who ever lived had more reason to complain than you do.
He clearly has not read George Orwell or Leon Trotsky on the subject; and numerous other contemporariers and victims. He could improve his mind greatly by doing so.
“Feeling hunted” isn’t necessarily genocide, nor is it necessarily fascism. Not when your feelings are based in narcissism and entitlement.
Way to appropriate the gaslighting actual women actually experience, though. Bravo. Slow clap.
What does “uniting and fighting” even mean to these people? What did #Resistance accomplish in four years that wasn’t ultimately outshone by a boring establishment politician and the many voters who were sick of Trump?
I’m currently making arrangements to have a conversation with some other men about fatherhood and the threat of gender identity dogma to boys. I am not using my real name, because of the real-life repercussions people in my family could face if the MRA/TRAs start knocking it about. I don’t use my real name here. I have appeared on or written in, or contributed to, other media, without using my real name, for the same reasons.
Tell me more about feeling hunted.
It’s all DARVO with these creeps. They sterilize children with puberty blockers and say someone else is committing genocide. They beat up women trying to speak and say someone else is repressive. They force lesbians to have sex with men, and then say someone else is homophobic. They hound non-believers out of their jobs and homes and say someone else is persecuting them. When they say it’s time to “unite and fight,” they mean it’s time to depersonalize their opponents and ramp up the violence against them – and then blame the victims doubly for making them do it.
No law says they can’t be trans, just that they can’t impose it on others. Of course they are being murdered off in droves by simply being told “no.” Such a pity.
The laws are being written to protect women and children from them, yet they’re still the good guys? I think not.
Agree @4 Thinking the same thing.
Willoughby — “Nobody’s doing anything about my feelings.”
twiliter, again, just like religion. The secular community insists a creche must be removed from city property. Some local church says, “Hey, bring it here! We’ll put it up!” Okay, what sort of gotcha is that? It’s what’s being requested, but they have such a sense of persecution that any little thing is fuel…just like trans.
I think the trans “community” needs to feel persecuted (preferably without actually being persecuted). Some people get a real buzz out of being persecuted…or, should I say, out of the perceived persecution.
Repeating with emphasis:
It’s all DARVO with these creeps. They sterilize children with puberty blockers and say someone else is committing genocide. They beat up women trying to speak and say someone else is repressive. They force lesbians to have sex with men, and then say someone else is homophobic. They hound non-believers out of their jobs and homes and say someone else is persecuting them. When they say it’s time to “unite and fight,” they mean it’s time to depersonalize their opponents and ramp up the violence against them – and then blame the victims doubly for making them do it.
It’s just like Tinkerbell. If you refuse to believe, they cease to exist. If you actually question or resist their demands, you’re actively genociding them.
Where exactly do these precious”refugees” think they’re going to go? Where else are they going to find a media as compliant and enabling as those in the UK, US, Canada (insert the names the many other countries whose major news providers who rewrite their headlines and stories to appease genderists, tip-toe around the actual sex of TiM criminals, and use preferred pronouns to the exclusion of the truth here)? They’d be moving from places where they have unearned and unwarranted power and influence to places where they have little or none. How’s that going to work? How will their new unprimed and uncaptured host socities take to their demands for special privileges? Not nearly as kindly as those of the “regimes” they’re packing their bags to “flee” from.
No, it’s not pogroms and genocide they’re facing, it’s disagreement. The language of the Holocaust is just the latest in a long list of opportunistic appropriations that trans activism has engaed in. What movement haven’t they plundered for expedient (if wildly inaccurate) comparisons and terminolgy? Civil rights, feminism, gay rights, anti-imperialism, anti-racism, intersectionality, child protection, DSDs; all have had language and concepts lifted from them and pressed into service consealing and obfuscating the demands and desires of men. It’s a “social justice” movement that is neither social or just. It cannot withstand any kind of concerted scrutiny, and it must hide the truth and nature of its actual goals and beneficiaries at all costs. And they’ve had truly remarkable success in doing just that, acheiving a degree of influence and cooperation that would be the envy of any real social justice movement. But to hide this power and success, they must portray themselves as the Most Marginalized, the Most Vulnerable, and the Most Likely To Comit Suicide or Be Murdered Ever. And they’ve been wildly successful at this as well. It’s uncritically accepted that trans people are just marginalized as fuck. It’s the foundation and starting point of almost all discussions of trans “issues.” It goes without saying. They’ve even recruited many outside their “movement” to do the dirty work of vilifying and demonizing their opponents (mostly women) in the guise of being on the “right side of history.” Where else are these would be “refugees” going to find that?
But now, people are starting to wake up. They’re starting to ask questions. The wheels are coming off the trans bandwagon and trans activists have to make their case, out in the open. Their behind the scenes, extra-legal campaigning for policy influence, along with their tactically useful but strategically disastrous policy of “NO DEBATE!” has left them unable to do so. With the constant bullying, and moral blackmail, trans activists have painted themselves into a corner of its own making, having spent too much of their hyperbole on relatively mild questioning and pushback that they branded as “actual violence,” because it wasn’t actually violent. in their heedless zeal to shame and bully women defending their rights and dignity, they escalated too soon, and have few rhetorical weapons left to use. So now things are so bad, they suddenly have to “escape” into exile, with, disappointingly, absolutely nobody hot on their heels. They’re threatening to jump out of the basement window of a building that is not on fire, and nobody cares. It turns out the only thing worse than being persecuted is not being persecuted. “BEAT DOWN MY DOOR! YOU ARE OBLIGATED TO VALIDATE MY IDENTITY AS APOWERLESS, MARGINALIZED VICTIM!! I DEMAND YOUR HATRED AND CONTEMPT!!! CENTRE ME, GODDAMMIT!!!!” It’s not paranoia when someone is actually out to get you. But when nobody is actually out to get you, and you wish they were? What’s that?
At this point, trans activists have little option left but to go nuclear. They have no victimhood of their own, so if they need it, they have to steal it. Given their combined history of terminological pilferage and threat inflation, it’s no surprise that they now wrap themselves in the mantle of the victims of the greatest crime of the Twentieth Century. But this may be a theft too far. If any one looks, there’s nothing to see. There’s literally no comparison. There has been no Kristallnacht. Nobody is rounding them up. No yellow stars. There are no camps. There are no tattoos. There are no showers. There are no ovens. They are not Jews in pre-war Germany. The sky is not falling. In the West, they’re one of the safest demographics, and they can’t stand it. They’re waking up to the fact that nobody hates them as much as they’ve told themselves (and everyone else) that some do. Their Rememberences are hollow and pointless; their are no victims to commemorate. The Tomb of the Unknown lies empty, waiting.
Meanwhile, the steady toll of murdered women, barely commented upon (and best left that way), underlies the impotent humilitaion of trans safety and privilege, a terrible drumbeat spurring a perverse, envious death wish. Trauma and persecution are just another costume to don, a pose to strike (or discard) as needed, a juicy role for boutique refugees deciding exactly which heels to pack and which to wear when they make their stroll for the border, contemplating the glamourous life of cafe exiles, trading tales of imagined hardships and close calls. What would they do in the face of the all-too-real violence and intimidation that millions of women face every day? If they had any empathy at all, they would not wish any version of this upon themselves, even as a costume, or blithely compare the sudden akwardness of their having to respond to political pushback to the persecution and murder of millions of Jews.
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It’s also a bit like God. A country that refuses to “acknowledge” its Creator makes God impotent, for He cannot (or will not) hold His hand of protection over the rebellious souls of those who reject Him. Like the trans-identified, the religiously devout cannot just accept that others don’t believe and won’t pretend to. No, heretics know full well what they’re doing. They do believe — and a refusal to admit that is only the first part. Next comes forcibly removing Bibles and pronouns, then marching off the devout into death camps. Why? Because Satan is their master and standing right behind them.
TRAs manage to steal fake victim hood, too.
There’s a wonderful line in the movie Widows that goes something like (from memory): “Everyone has a sob-story, and most of them are better than yours”. If fucking pronouns and JK Rowling are even on your list of concerns, then at least to an excellent first approximation every other person who ever lived had more reason to complain than you do.