Who elected him?
Another incident from the orgy of monarchist mourning:
I knew that Charles Windsor would be declared “King Charles III” in official ceremonies around the UK. I had assumed they would be fairly small-scale….
It was only when I went to church that I learnt that there was not only a proclamation in Oxford but a procession that would start just outside our church. I was feeling sad and angry as I left church and walked past the cordoned-off streets, and saw the dignitaries and military leaders standing on the steps of Carfax Tower in clothing more suited to the 16th century. This, apparently, is how we proclaim a new head of state in 21st-century Britain.
After making slow progress along the pavement, I asked the police how I could get across to the other side as the road was closed off. When I expressed a mild criticism of the royal procession during my question about the road closures, they became defensive and refused to talk with me further. Someone who had heard me came over and challenged my views, but the police told us not to talk to each other. I have no idea on what basis the police stop people with different views having a discussion.
You and a lot of gender critical women.
He was stuck there so he listened to the proclamation.
I remained quiet in the first part of the proclamation, concerning the death of Elizabeth. Any death is sad and I would not object to people mourning.
It was only when they declared Charles to be “King Charles III” that I called out: “Who elected him?” I doubt most of the people in the crowd even heard me. Two or three people near me told me to shut up. I didn’t insult them or attack them personally, but responded by saying that a head of state was being imposed on us without our consent.
A security guard appeared, stood right in front of me and told me to be quiet. Two more security guards came along and they tried to push me backwards. As I asked them to give the legal basis for what they were doing, the police came over, more or less moved the security guards out of the way and took hold of me. I was outraged that they were leading me away, but was taken aback when they told me they were arresting me. I have no illusions about the police’s questionable relationship with the law, but I seemed to have been arrested for nothing more than expressing an opinion in public. They gave me confused answers when I asked on what grounds I had been arrested.
Lèse-majesté of course! Mind you that’s not illegal except in Thailand, but the police get to make up their own laws when it comes to Saying Something Naughty.
Eventually I was handcuffed—I don’t know what sort of threat they thought I posed—and put in the back of a police van. A police officer got in the van and took my details. After lots of conversations on his radio, he said I would be de-arrested but that they would want to interview me. I said I would do so only with a lawyer present. After some more radio conversations he told me I would be de-arrested and then contacted to be interviewed at a later date, and possibly charged.
For saying “who elected him?” It’s trumpian in its absurdity and overreach.
Eventually, on the way home, I was told that I had been arrested under the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act (the outrageous act passed earlier this year) for actions likely to lead to “harassment or distress.”
Vivat rex!
Various forms of Lèse-majesté are still criminalised in many other countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A8se-majest%C3%A9
Although that list makes what happened in UK look totally over the top as it is no longer a criminal act there.
When did the modern UK start slip-sliding into petty totalitarianism? I know this tendency is always at least latent everywhere, but COME ON.
First I knew of it was of course police protection of Trans Feelings. Were there other examples?
There is the whole tv monitors everywhere thing, which goes back quite a long way.
America gets a lot of things wrong, but its free speech laws are pretty damn good, at least compared to the alternatives.
To be fair to Charles, I do believe he went through a farcical aquatic ceremony before receiving the crown.
WaM #5
I was wondering when the reference to “Monty Python and the Holy Grail” would come. ;)
Well, it was there in the title of this entry, and I don’t doubt that that was intentional on Ophelia’s part (and perhaps on the part of the arrestee). I’m just a bandwagon jumper, or perhaps a collector of low-hanging fruit.
Actually I wasn’t thinking of Monty Python at all. Missed a trick there. The title of the entry doesn’t appear in the bit – the closest is “Well I didn’t vote for you.”
Ah, well, I was reading an oblique reference that wasn’t there.
And a good thing too. I’ve just been laughing myself sick at that scene. Palin and Jones piling up stacks of mud amid the Marxist jargon.
It never gets old, does it?
Also relevant to the Trump administration – Brave Sir Robin bravely runs away.
And I think these guys are in charge of security at Sea-to-Lake.