Oh no we’re aggressively promoting our agenda
Trans woman says why can’t women be more ladylike god damn it?
I was sad that, yet again, JK Rowling is using her fame to campaign against trans women (“JK Rowling rounds on Starmer”, News, last week). As a trans woman myself I am angry and frustrated that the media debate has deteriorated into an argument about whether I can use a ladies’ lavatory. The argument that a public lavatory can be classed as a “safe space” is frankly bizarre.
Not if you’re a woman it isn’t, not if its comparative safety is being taken away from you.
High-profile women should stop using megaphone tactics to whip up transphobia: using words like “scared, angry and disillusioned” creates a climate that is extremely dangerous for trans people who, like me, just want to be accepted and allowed to cope with their gender dysphoria in the best way they have found.
Gee, he should see the kinds of things that are said about and to us.
I love being a woman (or trans woman, if you insist) and support the feminist movement, but I am disillusioned that some women are using masculine behaviour to aggressively promote their agenda in an uncompromising way…
Ahhhhhhhhhh yes why can’t we be more gentle and hesitant and polite and shy and apologetic the way women are supposed to be. Thanks for the pointers, bro.
Is today Backwards Day? The Times features this, while over at the Guardian an editorial says–
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/20/observer-view-cass-review-gender-identity-services-young-people
Yes, just another proof that trans women are better women. They would never dream of aggressively promoting their agenda in a masculine way, because they are women, goddamit. Women, I tell you! They wear make up and high heels and have the head tilt…and they are passive sweethearts that always smile and get sandwiches!
I so fucking hate this idea that any form of being assertive (not aggressive, sweetheart, Rowling is being assertive. Women are allowed to do that) is masculine. Women, keep to your places! That’s the message.
And he loves being a woman because he isn’t one. He doesn’t have to live the sex, just claim it and go to the women’s room to get his jollies.
The best way for him, but not the best way for any women in there are the same time as him. But that’s fine, because he doesn’t think toilets should be a place where people feel that they have privacy and security, so it’s no big deal that he turns it into a tense encounter.
Masculine behavior? Asexistsayswhat?
It’s all sexism, all the way down and out their narcissistic assholes.
Well, also homophobia, but that’s a product of paranoid misogyny. So sexism.
Ahh, yes, we all know that brand of feminism that categorises behaviours into “masculine” and “feminine”, and says it is only right and proper that women engage in feminine behaviours and shun masculine ones. You know, those feminists who spend all day shouting down women and putting them in their place. Just like the atheists who spend all their time decrying nonbelievers for not going to church, the parents who let their children run roughshod over the house, and the friends who keep borrowing money without paying it back and also sleep with your significant other behind your back.
All such people indeed exist and claim membership in their corresponding groups. Whether they actually live up to said membership is left as an exercise for the reader.
Women asserting their rights creates “a climate that is extremely dangerous for trans people,” eh? In what way? What documented “extreme danger” would that be? Proofs, please. Put up or shut up.
But are they doing that.? It would appear to me that the transsexual transvestites from Transylvania and elsewhere are generating most of the transphobia around very effectively and by their own efforts, with no input at all required from say, me. No megaphones needed by them at all, neither.
It isn’t tone policing when it’s done to a woman. Checkmate, TERFs!
She’s been actively tweeting about detransitioners, those whose existence the transactivists dismiss and try to erase because it disproves that kids “know who they are” and that’s very aggressive behavior. Showing empathy to the life-altering decisions that they were steered into, apparenlty is too masculine.
Which is a what, gender stereotype? Perhaps only trans ID women are allowed to be aggressive.
#5 Durchenwanderer
That would be ‘trans feminism’, i.e. patriarchy that identifies as feminism.
#6 maddog
An inadvertent admission that trans rights and women’s rights are in tension.
We actually present proof of ‘extreme danger’ to women, and are told we are liars. They present no proof of ‘extreme danger’ to trans, and what little proof they do dish out is often wrongly interpreted, and in some cases actually expropriated from the LGB community. Nevertheless, we must accept that there is ‘extreme danger’ to TiM. Which apparently means that extreme danger to women is acceptable.
The responses to Rowling’s tweets about detransitioners (such as this one) have been a mix of heartening and infuriating. So many people respond saying things like “That must be fake, no way a doctor would remove the breasts of a healthy 16-year-old girl” or “Detransition is vanishingly rare” or “but suicide”. It’s good to see people pushing back on these statements, but still. There are so many people who cannot even imagine that doctors would be so caught up in this ideology that they act so unethically.
Make up your mind. When public lavatories are classed as “safe spaces” this means they are separated into Men’s & Women’s. Women do not feel safe or comfortable sharing lavatories with men.You want to use the Woman’s. You say you don’t feel safe or comfortable using the Men’s.
That means you don’t think that the argument that a public lavatory can be classed as a “safe space” is bizarre. And you’re not being frank.
It goes downhill from there.
Sandra, I had the same thought. Wasn’t the whole point that a TIM could be beaten up by transphobic men in the men’s room? Now that it is more accepted, it has shifted from TIMs needing the safety of women’s bathrooms to TIMs needing the validation of women’s bathrooms.