Definitions

The Mermaids-LGB Alliance hearing resumed today.

They talk about political versus charitable, and the complexities of distinguishing between them.

MG: LGBA say gender is a construct. One needs to go beyond articles on any footing. What other material is admissable? Who is the audience to whom the article is addressed? [Bev Jackson and Kate Harris] contacted “stroppy” people re formation of LGBA.

GC views – no comprehensive definition but says sex is immutable. So people should be described with ref to their sex so male or male-bodied. Says GI orgs are homophobic. Also a view that LGB rights are not same as GI rights. The effect is to challenge or be against trans rights.

Who is the audience to whom this is addressed? The mission statement was to challenge the notion of gender and unscientific doctrines. [Allison Bailey]’s tweet encapsulates the mission of LGBA “gender extremism is about to meet its match”.

There is no single statement that shows LGBAs views – we can conclude that they go further than sex is immutable. BJ said “The word lesbian is taken”. The phrase TATG is used.

We say the articles should be read against that background. We consider that the articles are incomplete. In light of this, we say you can conclude that GC beliefs (in campaigns etc) want to change the law on policies. This would affect MM and other trans orgs. We don’t want to get into equality legislation. This is a charities case.

We should draw a distinction between what a witness says in court and what was said prior to tribunal. We say that these are expressive of LGBA views – KH speech says “[Stonewall] is at the heart of the lie of GI. We are going to campaign that confirms that there are 2 sexes.” She is talking about political lobbying. Also BJ says: “our 1st priority is to press pause on GRR in Scotland” “Our battle against Stonewall law” 

It’s weird to call it “political lobbying” to say “there are two sexes.” I know why they say it, of course, but it’s weird. It’s worth reminding ourselves of how weird it is.

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