Da hair, da lipstick
This guy thinks people are obliged to want to “date” him.
Nobody is obliged to want to date anyone. Beyond that, no one should even consider for a second “dating” this guy. He’d be drinking your blood within seconds.
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This guy thinks people are obliged to want to “date” him.
Nobody is obliged to want to date anyone. Beyond that, no one should even consider for a second “dating” this guy. He’d be drinking your blood within seconds.
I date women. Well, I used to when I was on that scene. I don’t find that person physically attractive. I don’t find their sense of entitlement attractive. The pale blue nail polish and bright red lipstick make me want to look away. Even if they were a woman and I accepted them as such, I still wouldn’t want to date them, or indeed hang out with them. transphobia has nothing to do with that.
Stupid analogy. At this point, we are not aware of people from Mars. That means we do not know their characteristics. If we find people from Mars, and it turned out they had a habit of laying eggs in the torsos of those who went out with them, I certainly would not go out with them.
If, however, it turned out they were mostly just like people from other cultures, I might be willing to go out with them, but it would still depend on their personal characteristics.
Dating trans is an exercise in something familiar. We know what women are, we know what men are, and by the time a person reaches my age, it’s a good bet they know which they are attracted to (not necessarily an either/or). It’s also obvious that women who are lesbian are not attracted to people with penises.
I wouldn’t date a trans person if they had such an entitled, eat my shit attitude.
Ok, can women even have faces shaped like that? At best when I look at them I get an uncanny valley feeling, but then again most AGPs don’t even put in the effort to be traps…
I never fail to boggle at how convinced these men seem to be that anyone at all cares what they think and is interested in their ‘rules’. (At least this dude seems to be addressing other men rather than lesbians.)
Odd analogy. Brings to mind the saying “men are from Mars….” which illuminates the reason that lesbians and heterosexual men aren’t queuing up to date this guy.
In one respect, I somewhat agree with this guy.
“I’m talking about people who say they accept trans people as their gender, who date that gender, but won’t date them. […] But, if you say that someone born on Mars is a human, but you refuse to date that person, that’s something else.”
If you that someone born on Mars is a human when they aren’t, you are lying. Those trans sympathisers who claim to accept e.g. trans women as women but then refuse to be involved with them are giving away that same lie. They’re aware of the difference between a trans woman and a woman – one is a woman, the other is male – but they are choosing the path of political least resistance. Mr. Transwomyn is right to point out that these people are lying; I would add that they are cowards.
The solution to this is to normalise the truth: a trans woman is a man that wishes he was / believes himself to be a woman.
Regardless of one’s gender or sex or self-identifying thereof… I’m not into dating delusional people who insist others not only support them but actively encourage, praise, and reward their delusions. Hard pass.
He also says refusing to date trans people is like refusing to drink Dasani water because there’s no Evian. Clearly a graduate of the Herschel Walker School of Analogy.
I think you’re on to the key point here, ibbica. There are a lot of people out there who will pay pronoun service to trans, but who know deep down that these aren’t women, they’re just mentally unstable men. And even if you date men, do you date deranged men who insist you pretend they’re women and constantly tell them how womanly they are? Would you date someone with a huge Dudley Doright chin and a husky voice and strangler’s hands who insisted you praise their femininity? There’s just a small pool of potential dates who are in on this kink; that’s a hell of a lot of thirst if it isn’t your bag. And most of the folks who want to play this game, well, there’s probably something a bit off about them too, so the likelihood of stable, long-term relationships is pretty low.
The saddest part is what this dude can’t quite allow himself to realize: the vast majority of people who call him “her” and agree that “trans women are women” don’t really mean it. The trans lobby has enough power to force lots of people to utter words they don’t believe. But, mostly, they can’t force people into bed with them.
“Is that transphobic?” — Of course. If you’re not trans or a practicing trans activist, you are transphobic by default. This is why we need these educational videos on dating, pronouns, and the rest of it. Repent ye sinners.
Papito, what I find sad are the “gay trans boys”. All over Twitter you’ll see gay men telling these deluded straight girls that yes, of course we see you as handsome gay men, trans men are men, you won’t have any problem finding a boyfriend as a gay trans man, #GWithTheT hashtags, fuck terfs, etc. And then the deluded straight girls download Grindr and Scruff or go to a gay bar to get themselves a cute gay boyfriend. Which is when they end up crying in the bathroom because the gay dating scene is a tough place these days, and these deluded straight girls have just learned the hard way about “woke in the tweets, terf in the sheets”.
This is a crucial point that Papito made:
the vast majority of people who call him “her” and agree that “trans women are women” don’t really mean it. The trans lobby has enough power to force lots of people to utter words they don’t believe.
It’s a massive black box in a way. Because of the coercive bullying we-will-ruin-you nature of this “activism” we really don’t and can’t know how many people genuinely believe it. In a way it doesn’t matter, because they’ll go right ahead and punish us anyway, but in other ways it damn well does matter. Same way the Inquisition mattered.
Re #8
He and Walker are Evian spelled backwards.
Good one. :D
Speaking of Walker, has everyone seen the news from Georgia? Joe Manchin no longer controls the Senate!
What’s horrifying is that the election was so close.
At least it was less close in the runoff. I’m surprised the meathead got as much traction as he did, but there are a lot of hard line Republicans here.
A lot of men who ARE willing to date trans women are likely actually bisexual to some degree–they like ‘femininity’ in their partner (as horribly defined as that term is), but don’t have a particularly strong desire for specific genitalia. This is probably also true of self-declared ‘lesbians’ who don’t have any issue with dating a trans woman.
But the existence of such folks does nothing to invalidate the sexual preferences of those of us who do, in fact, have a desire to be with a partner with a specific plumbing set. The trans language on this is so obviously drawn from incel logic that it could’ve been written by Elliot Rodger.
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Re: Walker–thank god the total IQ in the Senate didn’t go down any further. Not a lot is going to happen for the next two years, with the GOP in control of the House, unfortunately, but the margin of victory there is narrow enough that we might be able to flip it again with the next Presidential cycle. We still need one more seat in the Senate, too, if we’re really going to change things–Sienma is about as bad as Manchin, unfortunately. Though maybe the Dem leadership can play them off against one another–“First one to propose an ACTUAL compromise we can live with gets a deal, and the other one gets nothing.”
I wonder how much of the rage and anger stems from this. On one hand, TiMs are getting (some) people to correctly “gender” them, with correct pronoun usage, support for trans “rights”, etc. At the same time both they and their supporters know that they are not women. If this wasn’t the case, we wouldn’t be subjected to the periodic “reminders” that trans activists so thoughtfully push on us with such great regularity. If the truths they claim were as widely accepted as they wished them to be, we wouldn’t be subjected to the constant repetition of the Holy Mantra, TWAW (PBUH). II’m wondering if this is as much self-talk as it is for public re-education.
If you have enough power and influence, you can force some degree of compliance with the verbal affirmation; you can never erase the private knowledge amongst all parties concerned that these affirmations are actually lies. There must be a lot of tension with political “success” living in such close, intimate, inescapable proximity of the knowledge of material and metaphysical failure. It must grow tiresome to be so ever vigilant, to uphold the lie at all times.
Yes, you’re never going to get people to stop voting with their, um, feet as it were.
@18 I was talking with someone the other day about one of the increasing number of young women making videos about their detransition. She seemed genuinely angry and upset that people had been LYING to her by telling her that she ‘passed’/they thought of her as a man. She seemed to genuinely not understand that people said those things to her not because they actually believed them but because they thought it was ‘kind’/didn’t want to deal with the potential consequences of bursting her bubble. It was weird to see how completely convinced she had been by the feedback she was getting from others about the authenticity of her ‘gender’.
That’s the problem with shooting the messenger. Turns out what you don’t know can hurt you after all…