You want examples?
Uh huh great, woman journalist skewers governor for signing a bill that would keep boys from playing on girls’ athletic teams.
West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice struggled to come up with a single example of a transgender athlete gaining an unfair advantage in sports while being grilled Friday by MSNBC’s Stephanie Ruhle over why he signed a bill targeting transgender athletes.
It’s not about “targeting” anyone, and the issue is boys who get a hefty advantage by moving over to the girls’ team.
“Can you name one example of a transgender child trying to gain an unfair competitive advantage at a school there in West Virginia?” Ruhle asked Justice.
“Well, Stephanie, I don’t have that experience exactly to myself right now —,” Justice replied.
“Not yourself, your state, sir. Can you give me one example of a transgender child trying to get an unfair advantage? Just one, in your state. You signed a bill about it,” she pressed.
Cue applause from all the people who just can’t wait to see boys playing on girls’ teams.
So Ruhle patted herself on the back for this brilliant gotcha.
I retorted. It won’t do any good, but we have to try.
Nullius is there too.
There is ample precedent of Little League teams cheating in other ways.
Most famously, Danny Almonte pitched a perfect game in the Little League World Series — only to have it revealed that he was older than his registration claimed and thus ineligible to play.
The 1992 LLWS championship was stripped from a Phillippines team for using players outside their home district: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Little_League_World_Series
Happened recently to the U.S. champion: https://www.pennlive.com/little-league-world-series/2015/02/little_league_strips_jackie_ro_1.html
That’s a few seconds of Googling.
I’m receptive to the argument that this isn’t likely to be a common thing, and that the benefits outweigh the potential harms. But anyone claiming that nobody would cheat to get an advantage in youth sports doesn’t know anything about youth sports.
I see Stephanie’s twitter bio has a curious lack of spaces after commas. Nitpicky I know, but things like that fucking irritate me. :P Not to mention that the amount people who have not been shot in the head is not a good argument for shooting apples off people’s heads.
Why would it matter whether they were trying to get an unfair advantage or not? Every Trans girl could be as innocent and honest and pure as the driven snow, with no interest in personal gain and every hope for their team — focusing on fun and exercise— and the basic issue remains the same. If these are boys, then they’re going to have an advantage over girls as soon as they reach puberty, and possibly before.
Why didn’t she ask for an example of a transgender child trying to gain a fair competitive advantage in sports? Because they all think it’s fair – even if they have a pretty good idea that they’re going to blow through every record once they get on the girl’s team. Most, possibly even all, really believe they’re girls “on the inside, where it counts.” TRAs seem to think we believe they’re lying, as opposed to mistaken, and that this is the issue.
It’s the same reason they think knowing and listening to transgender stories will change our minds, when we discover they’re sincere. I don’t doubt their sincerity, or their desire.
Re” Can you name one example of a transgender child trying to gain an unfair competitive advantage at a school there in West Virginia?”:
To me, that reads like “Can you think of anyone who’s tried to rob a bank in West Virginia? So why do you need a law against it?”
And Little League…it isn’t unusual for boys and girls to play sports together before puberty.
OK, analogy time — a group of politicians reads about a new species of snake discovered in Australia that is extremely venomous and has suddenly starting growing exponentially in population. The populations of that snake’s prey species are dropping into extinction imminent range and many people have been bitten, some people have died.
Politicians in the USA leap to make sure that laws are passed banning this new species from being brought into the USA. Now, nobody has died in the USA and no native species are threatened YET. So, who raises a fuss about these laws?
Leave our snakes out of this. They’re really just trans goannas.
No ===> then why have these laws?
Yes ===> this is just a cherry-picked one-off. Where is the evidence that this is systematic?
I don’t know the name of a single South Australian murderer, I guess Ruhle is in favour of South Australia rescinding its laws against murder…
The whole line of argument is like a slightly modified version of “we’ll never get rid of 100% of [bad thing], so why bother with a law”, which we get from those opposed to any sort of gun control legislation. Instead, it’s “we’ll hardly ever see [bad thing], so why bother with a law”. Both assert that a bad thing has a low frequency, and both infer from this that legislation is of no value. One says no less than; the other, no more than. There will be no less than a certain amount of gun crime. There will be no more than a certain amount of males exploiting female sports.
People and their shitty arguments.
I think Laurel Hubbard is weightlifting, not wrestling?
Oh yes, so he is.