A gay bar works with a gay magazine; the gay magazine supports a gay organization; the gay organization is not about trans people. So this is, what, two levels of indirection? The bar is fine, the magazine is fine, but the gay organization is not, so condemn them all? What’s next, condemn the patrons, and the businesses they own, and the customers of those businesses, and so on ad nauseam?
And funny how LGB Alliance is a “hate group”, and hates “LGBT+” people, simply because they aren’t about the “T+” part, but David Paisley himself isn’t an LGBT “hater” because he hates LGB Alliance. They’ve got three of the four letters, that’s way more than one.
I hope all those T folks (and their allies) drink that much more to make up for the LGB people who end up voting with their feet.
I wonder how many businesses who have cowered, then bowed down to the Mighty T, have discovered that many of the vocal critics to whom they are caving have never spent a dime in their establishmeents and would never have done so regardless. They’re just in it for a righteous pile on, which might draw pilers-on from the other side of the planet. TAs might have the power to sink a business, but not enough interest (or numbers) to keep a compliant one afloat. But that’s not the point. Power, clout, and contrite submission to it is. Besides, torpedoing a vulnerable, small business is so much more fun, and rewarding pour encourager les autres, than patronizing them. There will always be other restaurants, bars, bookstores…
Yes. And to add to the lunacy, David Paisley is himself a gay man. A gay man denouncing a gay bar because it didn’t denounce a gay magazine which didn’t denounce an organisation for gay, lesbian and bi people. It’s difficult to imagine someone working more against their own interests.
He’s a very nasty, very obsessive man, though, who has dug himself so deeply into the deepest trans ideology nonsense that he has no way back, even in theory. In other words, he has nothing to lose, so be careful if you interact with him.
Where have they gone? Why could that be? Could it be the influx of TIMs? I imagine a lesbian bar’s last day being the day there aren’t any actual women in there besides the bartender.
Though New York may have more lesbian bars than any other city in the United States, the venues are part of a dwindling industry. According to a nonprofit known as the Lesbian Bar Project, only 19 of these spaces are left nationwide.
It is a drastic shift from the heady boom of lesbian nightlife that started in the 1950s and ’60s.
Though early incarnations of lesbian drinking spots were mostly underground, the Damron guide, which lists L.G.B.T.Q.-friendly establishments, included 206 lesbian bars (and 699 gay bars) in the United States as recently as 1987. And though most queer spaces saw a decline during the AIDS epidemic, the erasure of lesbian bars is especially staggering for those who frequent them.
I know that a lot of “trans men” can pass better than most “trans women.” The trap-to-troon ratio is ludicrous. But I don’t think that “trans men” go to gay bars trying to pass themselves off as actual men to pick up gay men unawares, and if some do they’re not likely to pose much of a threat. Straight women have always frequented gay bars anyway. There is a term for that.
Il Grand’ Inquisitor!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pNxU4ck8BI
If they do, they will be medieval fleas; perhaps with one or two ring-ins from the Dark Age.
Let me get this straight (pun intended):
A gay bar works with a gay magazine; the gay magazine supports a gay organization; the gay organization is not about trans people. So this is, what, two levels of indirection? The bar is fine, the magazine is fine, but the gay organization is not, so condemn them all? What’s next, condemn the patrons, and the businesses they own, and the customers of those businesses, and so on ad nauseam?
And funny how LGB Alliance is a “hate group”, and hates “LGBT+” people, simply because they aren’t about the “T+” part, but David Paisley himself isn’t an LGBT “hater” because he hates LGB Alliance. They’ve got three of the four letters, that’s way more than one.
Wow, that’s a lot of abasement. And fear.
I hope all those T folks (and their allies) drink that much more to make up for the LGB people who end up voting with their feet.
I wonder how many businesses who have cowered, then bowed down to the Mighty T, have discovered that many of the vocal critics to whom they are caving have never spent a dime in their establishmeents and would never have done so regardless. They’re just in it for a righteous pile on, which might draw pilers-on from the other side of the planet. TAs might have the power to sink a business, but not enough interest (or numbers) to keep a compliant one afloat. But that’s not the point. Power, clout, and contrite submission to it is. Besides, torpedoing a vulnerable, small business is so much more fun, and rewarding pour encourager les autres, than patronizing them. There will always be other restaurants, bars, bookstores…
Sackbut,
Yes. And to add to the lunacy, David Paisley is himself a gay man. A gay man denouncing a gay bar because it didn’t denounce a gay magazine which didn’t denounce an organisation for gay, lesbian and bi people. It’s difficult to imagine someone working more against their own interests.
He’s a very nasty, very obsessive man, though, who has dug himself so deeply into the deepest trans ideology nonsense that he has no way back, even in theory. In other words, he has nothing to lose, so be careful if you interact with him.
Must comply. Wouldn’t want the gay bar to go the way of the lesbian bar.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/nyregion/lesbian-bars-new-york-city.html
Where have they gone? Why could that be? Could it be the influx of TIMs? I imagine a lesbian bar’s last day being the day there aren’t any actual women in there besides the bartender.
I know that a lot of “trans men” can pass better than most “trans women.” The trap-to-troon ratio is ludicrous. But I don’t think that “trans men” go to gay bars trying to pass themselves off as actual men to pick up gay men unawares, and if some do they’re not likely to pose much of a threat. Straight women have always frequented gay bars anyway. There is a term for that.