Stop knowing that
Graham did this:
He also posted the text.
Almost four years ago I saw that feminists were being bullied, harassed and silenced for standing up for their rights and their children’s rights. I decided to use my platform on Twitter to bring attention to what seemed to be an all-out assault on women, on their words, their dignity and their safety. Also, I saw that vulnerable children were being fast-tracked onto a medical pathway that carried severe long-term implications. My position is very simple. I believe everyone should be allowed to talk about these issues. In fact, I believe it is a moral imperative that we do so.
I am talking about such matters as… the scandals at the Tavistock, the confusing and misleading advice that Stonewall has been providing to institutions all over the UK regarding the nature of the equalities act, the issue of men in women’s sports, in women’s prisons, their rape crisis centres, the destruction of basic safeguarding principles that has led to all this, and the silencing and abuse of feminists, doctors, teachers, academics and writers–anyone, in fact–who questions the fashionable American orthodoxy of gender identity ideology.
Is it American? Probably, yes. I apologize.
Around three years ago, I was among the initial signatories of a letter to Stonewall asking them to help lower the toxicity of the conversation around sex and gender and acknowledge the plurality of views on the subject. The letter was composed by Jonny Best, a gay man and longtime LGBT activist, and the majority of these initial signatories were either gay, lesbian or trans.
We wanted to see an end to women receiving death and rape threats for standing up for their sex-based rights. To that end, we asked Stonewall to commit to fostering an atmosphere of respectful debate, rather than demonising as transphobic those who wished to discuss or dissent from Stonewall’s current policies. Stonewall flatly refused this appeal within the day, and continued to dishonestly frame women standing up for their rights as an attack on trans rights. The petition has since been signed by over 11,000 people, many of them gay men and women in despair at what is being done in their name.
“Stop trashing women in public? Oh hell no!”
This silencing of women was the main reason I entered this fight. I knew the subject of gender was fraught but I’m political by nature and I couldn’t remain quiet in the face of such vicious misogyny. I presumed that when others saw what was happening that they too would speak up and we would be able to force the debate our opponents were so desperate to avoid.
I now realise that I was up against a much bigger beast than I thought. These platforms shape the debate and declare you untouchable when you refuse to play by their rules. The upshot is that many people presume that I am a bigot. These people also presume the same of JK Rowling and many other left-leaning, liberal and progressive women.
There’s even a special word for us.
Social media has created a through the looking glass world which is robbing everyone of their ability to think. My final statement on Twitter, the straw that broke the camel’s back, was simply “Men are not women.” A world where statements like “Men are not women” is hate speech is a world on the brink of chaos. Feminists are just the canary in the coalmine in this upside-down world where public discourse depends on the whims of a small group of men in Silicon Valley. Gender identity ideology began in American Universities, is uncritically disseminated by the popular media, but social media companies and their users are the enforcers.
Oh, American universities – Judith Butler and so on. Fair point. I reiterate my apology.
The reason you have not heard the things that I have heard is that the discourse is being shaped by trans rights activists. In place of reasoned arguments and democratic discussion, we have mantras like “No debate” and “Transwomen are women”, we have policies passing by stealth, we have bogus statistics about trans murder epidemics and we have the unconscionable weaponising of suicide for political ends.
The discourse is broken. Women’s rights are being stripped away, our children are not safe, and we are not allowed to talk about it.
That plus we are being ordered, with menaces, to believe what we can’t believe, to believe an obvious lie, indeed an absurdity. We are being bullied and shouted at and called names for the sake of a ludicrous fantasy-based denial of reality. We are being pressured to stop knowing what we know and instead know what we can’t possibly know because it isn’t true. That becomes all the more insulting and outrageous when the thing we’re being told to stop knowing is that men are not women.
I’ve already been accused of wanting to kill trans people because I said that the truth or otherwise of the stats Graham mentions does not rely on my opinion of them. Not even their opinion of them, mine.
It’s both easy and difficult to argue with this kind of hyperbole. Easy because the piss-taking virtually writes itself, difficult because it doesn’t get anyone anywhere.
The trouble is that this person probably does believe in some twisty, bullshit way that I wish trans people harm. And the other trouble is that it’s hard not to find it a little bit upsetting.
That’s exactly the sentence that got Meghan Murphy suspended from Twitter. I think she was ultimately kicked off for referring to Jessica (at the time still Jonathan!) Yaniv as “him”.
I see such statements as similar to assertions that I’m an (outspoken) atheist because I “hate God.” It’s the ideology talking, not the result of any thoughtful analysis of my character. They would say the same to Mr. Rogers. So when I get the same—even from people who’ve known me for years and should know I’m not violent or filled with hate — I try not to take it personally. Not always easy, as you say. But someone watching is likely to note the disconnect between your actual arguments and the overblown reaction.
Gender ideology cannot hold. It flies in the face of reason, science, and common sense. It may take a while, but when it breaks it’s going to break hard. Graham Lineman helped it crack just a little bit more.
Truth to power.
Sastra,
It’s only a tiny bit hurtful because it’s so hard to take these people seriously. One of them has accused me of genocide now.
Besides, I think their hatred comes from feelings of impotence when faced with what they see as a genuine vast mountain of injustice they don’t have the tools to comprehend or assail. I can’t blame them for that. There’s no need to be dicks about it and make spurious accusations, but I know where it comes from.
It is starting to feel as though we’re living in a world piled high with babies, though. And that has nothing to do with my age.
NOTE: I tried to make that last post seem less condescending but then I thought fuck ’em, they accused me of genocide ;)
Ick. What was the context. Did you say “Men are not women”?
No! Not even that!
I said that I would like the true statistics on trans murder and suicide rates to be widely available for everyone to see and analyse, regardless of what they showed. I’d already said that I think the numbers are probably on the low side and we could do with better data.
I don’t know whether it’s collecting data that’s genocide or wanting people to see the data that’s equivalent to destroying an entire people but it’s evidently one of them.
Maybe they’re both genocides, and you’re committing two genocides? Hmm.
It’s amazing there’s anyone left on the planet, what with all the genociding I do.
Well you are threatening to kill their beautiful hypothesis with ugly facts. The killing off of untold (unreal?) numbers of trans people is one of the favourite tropes of TAs. It’s one of the ways (along with the enthusiastic promotion of suicidal ideation in young people) they threaten everyone else. It’s like some sort of strange hostage-taking, where activists are clinging to these awful things as bargaining chips. LOOK WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO US AND/OR WHAT WE’LL DO TO OURSELVES IF YOU DON’T GIVE US WHAT WE WANT! If the truth of the trans murder statistics is not as dire as it has been made out to be, it’s considered bad news by activists.
And apparently they fear that that indeed is the case. If they really believed that the true stats were so high, shouldn’t they consider it to be to their advantage for research and statistics to be taken and publicized?
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It’s probably the wanting to see data. That suggests that you adhere to factual information rather than swallowing whatever they tell you to believe, and we all know that facts are a component colonialist white feminism, invented by the West to subjugate all other peoples.
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I think that trans activists are hoping that the unevidenced, horrifyingly high, genocidal trans murder statistics will just become one of those non-factual “facts” that people believe, like the “fact” that humans only ever use 10% of their brains.
A number of people I know object to talking about how many women are in such-and-such situation, how many black people, and so on, thinking we should all be blind to these distinctions. Some of them at least understand the notion that you can’t tell whether there is any discrimination going on without data, but they still resent there being data, and they resent being asked to provide such information. Others of them don’t really care about discrimination data.
I’m thinking these cries of “genocide” are coming from people like this, who don’t want there to be any distinction between men-who-claim-to-be-women and women, they just want the TIMs to be absorbed into the female population. I would guess “genocide” is an extension of suicide threat for trans people not being accepted entirely as what they claim to be.
I think the genocide may be even a little more abstract. They take a massive leap from “I don’t think you are a woman” to “you erased my existence” (nothing of the sort; you obviously exist, you are hitting me with a baseball bat, I can’t deny your existence). Then the next leap is “erasure” = “genocide”.
I’ve seen the numbers they say are trans murders. Even the numbers they spout (none of which are known to have happened because of trans status) show the murder rate to be lower than most other groups. Women are murdered about 3 times as much, men something like 6 times as much. Black men have high murder rates, much higher than trans. Prostitutes have higher murder rates. In fact, the figures for trans murder puts them about at the murder rate of Canada, while the figures for black men are close to those of Haiti.
So, yeah, they don’t want to put actual data…they want to say “highest murder rate” and have everyone cry and vow to do better. “Oh, I don’t want you to die! I will call you she every time!”
And exactly how using preferred pronouns will reduce the murder rate is not clear. I doubt anyone is murdered because someone unknown to the murderer in some store or office the murderer has never entered ‘misgendered’ them by saying “May I help you, sir?”
And apparently their numbers on homeless are the numbers for all LGBTQ+++++++++++ and are predominantly gay males…so not trans at all.
“These platforms shape the debate and declare you untouchable when you refuse to play by their rules.”
A warning we were given repeatedly by Marshall McLuhan many times in the late middle of the previous century – a warning that is focused on in Adrian Daub’s recent book “What Tech Calls Thinking”
On his website Daub claims “I also serve as the Faculty Director of the Michelle R. Clayman Institute for Gender Research” (https://www.adriandaub.com) The relationship between that “Title” and the very male-centric focus of his book does raise some serious questions (see the conclusion of: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/13/books/review/what-tech-calls-thinking-adrian-daub.html) but the reminders of McLuhan’s warnings about media being the message are very relevant . . .
Latest, I went and had a look at your twitter timeline (not enough cat photos) today and scrolling through I spotted the plug for T-shirts celebrating International woman’s Day from Birdy Rose. Inspired me to buy one for my other half. Well done.
Rob,
I have two of Birdy’s shirts: the Magdeline Berns I’d rather be rude than a fucking liar and the fight like a girl one. They get noticed.
Birdy has a YouTube channel now, incidentally.
I will try harder with the cat pictures.
A central feature of transgenderism is auto-sterilization. How does one commit genocide against people who have been sterilized? Didn’t the genocide already happen?
Another example of the confused thinking is when they spout about suicide rates. We are told that restricting access to puberty blockers and cross-sex drugs causes trans-youths to commit suicide in alarming numbers, and that letting them transition reduces the risk of suicide. Conversely, we are told that transitioned trans-people have a higher suicide rate than any other group. They see this as proof of continued oppression, but this overlooks what I would think is a far simpler, more realistic explanation, that feelings of being or wanting to be somebody else is a symptom of a deeper underlying problem which isn’t rectified by a change of identity and/or surgical modifications of the body.
Transitioning doesn’t create a brand new person, it’s merely a cosmetic change, so once they realise that transition is not letting them escape from being the person they don’t want to be, what other form of escape is left?