I’m having a hard time understanding where all the vitriol is coming from, and can only guess that it’s because the women who are against prostitution and porn are being blamed for male violence against prostitutes. And how do the transgender and their advocates manage to personalize it as a trans issue? Because they’re radical feminists? I don’t know what they’re shouting at them.
It is confusing, to be sure, Sastra. I suspect that sex work is taken up as a trans issue because so many MtF transgender persons engage in it, and would like to see it normalized in society. That it damages women is of no concern to them (because, of course, they are not women, they are selfish men).
I saw elsewhere that there was French graffiti saying “save a trans, kill a TERF”.
A friend on FB posted a meme with Dolly Parton telling people that, if they don’t respect trans people’s pronouns, “I’ll change your pronouns to ‘was’ and ‘were’ “. Not only is the grammar wrong, that’s a veiled threat. I also doubt Dolly Parton said anything of the sort.
I really do not understand why it is somehow OK to be so cavalier about killing people who disagree. It’s clear from instances like the attacks in the OP that there are those who will engage in actual violence over this issue.
… they started yelling “my body, my choice and shut the fck up” and “SWERFs” to our sisters on top of the statue. They also yelled “No feminism without whores”. They then started throwing eggs at us and tried to spray us in the eyes with red spray paint. They attacked all the ones who were at the foot Of the statue, hitting us and tearing the banners we were holding. We yelled back “male violence”, “MRAs” they then started yelling “transphobes” and giving us the finger and started chanting “one terf, one bullet, social justice!”.
They started spray painting at the bottom of the statue “Save a trans person, kill a terf”
We were all shoked at the degree of violence we were going through. Our sisters at the top of statue (who are in majority prostitution survivors) were traumatized and some of them cried. We still managed to keep them from climbing the statue but after over 4h we started to worry about how we would manage to leave the protest and get home. They lined up in front of us and made nazi gestures at us. Some of them started emptying beer bottles and mimicking throwing them at us. The police refused to escort us out and simply told us that if we were attacked they would intervene. Women from other feminist organization as well as a female elected representative came to our rescue and formed A circle around us to protect us and escort us to the nearest subway station.
I have never seen this much violence at a feminist protest directed at women. Our attackers were carrying trans and antifa flags, a lot of them were men and not one of the banners they were holding
Had the word “woman” on it. There were many talking about trans rights and how trans people have their space in feminism and how March the 8th is about the right of “sexed people”. Yes sexed people in order to avoid saying “woman”.
The unabashedly murderous threats – I know – we (the terfs) have been pointing this out all along. It’s just mind-boggling how much of it there is and how little pushback there is from the yay-trans crowd. By “little” I mean zero.
I suspect that sex work is taken up as a trans issue because so many MtF transgender persons engage in it, and would like to see it normalized in society.
Which is confusing, because one of the more common complaints from the trans lobby is that MtF trans people are so excluded from society that they are often forced into sex work, either in prostitution or porn, because nobody else will employ them. Now they’re chanting ‘my body my choice’ (appropriated from the pro-choice campaigners for abortion, because they really are short of original ideas – everything they either have or demand to have is taken from women) as though they want to be sex workers and it’s women who are preventing them.
One day they’ll come up with a single, coherent agenda, but I won’t recommend anybody holding their breath until it happens.
I’m having a hard time understanding where all the vitriol is coming from, and can only guess that it’s because the women who are against prostitution and porn are being blamed for male violence against prostitutes. And how do the transgender and their advocates manage to personalize it as a trans issue? Because they’re radical feminists? I don’t know what they’re shouting at them.
Very disturbing.
It is confusing, to be sure, Sastra. I suspect that sex work is taken up as a trans issue because so many MtF transgender persons engage in it, and would like to see it normalized in society. That it damages women is of no concern to them (because, of course, they are not women, they are selfish men).
I saw elsewhere that there was French graffiti saying “save a trans, kill a TERF”.
A friend on FB posted a meme with Dolly Parton telling people that, if they don’t respect trans people’s pronouns, “I’ll change your pronouns to ‘was’ and ‘were’ “. Not only is the grammar wrong, that’s a veiled threat. I also doubt Dolly Parton said anything of the sort.
I really do not understand why it is somehow OK to be so cavalier about killing people who disagree. It’s clear from instances like the attacks in the OP that there are those who will engage in actual violence over this issue.
Okay, got more:
(Sastra – sorry about the hold on the comment – it was a missing . in your address!)
The unabashedly murderous threats – I know – we (the terfs) have been pointing this out all along. It’s just mind-boggling how much of it there is and how little pushback there is from the yay-trans crowd. By “little” I mean zero.
James, #2
Which is confusing, because one of the more common complaints from the trans lobby is that MtF trans people are so excluded from society that they are often forced into sex work, either in prostitution or porn, because nobody else will employ them. Now they’re chanting ‘my body my choice’ (appropriated from the pro-choice campaigners for abortion, because they really are short of original ideas – everything they either have or demand to have is taken from women) as though they want to be sex workers and it’s women who are preventing them.
One day they’ll come up with a single, coherent agenda, but I won’t recommend anybody holding their breath until it happens.