I’m going to lose money, followers, friends and Patreon subscribers for speaking out but if I have to end up wiping windscreens at traffic lights for a living, so be it, i won’t be silenced in my support for trans rights.
I guess I can imagine him losing some followers, but a journalist in Great Britain supporting Trans Rights hardly sounds like a career-destroying move, or even like a risk at all. He’ll pick up more than he loses. How does he manage to see himself as the underdog? As the brave hero speaking Truth to Power and damned be the consequences?
Yesterday my corporate lawyer employers publicised their support for trans causes. They gave us links to Twitter and Linkedin and asked us to spread the word. They have got some award from Stonewall which they boast about in our standard emails. They are high earners and I doubt if any of them visualise themselves wiping windscreens at traffic lights. If OzK wants to be a martyr, he’s in the wrong time frame. I suppose he supports the USA’s withdrawal from Vietnam as another controversial opinion.
I’m astonished at this – OzK always seemed to be a well-informed, level-headed guy.
I think the answer is cognitive dissonance and information bubbles. I’m repeatedly shocked at how little trans advocates know about things that have happened, even extending to well publicised cases such as Karen White. I’ve had TRAs swear blind that the only males to have ever raped a female prisoner are guards. There’s also a great deal of assumption going on (much of it fair assumption to someone uninformed) such as believing that LGBT organisations wouldn’t encourage conditions that harm lesbians, or that DV organisations would prioritise males who claim to be women over their main clientele which is female victims of male pattern violence, and the serious science and government bodies wouldn’t redefine women as a feeling a man could have. I believed all those things, and it took a great deal of hard evidence to make me not believe it. I think the hostile zeitgeist is far easier to prove, since it’s everywhere. But even that’s not enough, if you truly believe that trans are “punching up”, which is now acceptable to many parties who haven’t thought it through.
Arcadia, it isn’t just uniformed, it’s sometimes willful ignorance. I have a young trans friend who refuses to accept any of that; they get all their information from trans sites, and believe this is just anti-trans lies. They also believe that women never get booted off Twitter for “anti-trans” views, while trans people cannot get a voice because merely saying meekly, hey, I’m trans gets you kicked off. Trying to point out the issues becomes an exercise in hostility, because they are sure I am mistaken. They couldn’t be, because, well, they are trans and understand things I don’t. And, since he is a transwoman, he understands women’s issues better than I do, too.
Oz Katerji is apparently having some sort of meltdown on Twitter right now, raging mightily, threatening to sue someone for accusing him of “homophobia,” insisting that a woman tweeting “tell (transwomen) to stay the f*ck out of women’s changing rooms” is dehumanizing hatred of inhuman proportions, etc. etc.
Somehow I lost 300 followers, but then proceeded to gain a new 900.
OMG that is SO unexpected! People supporting trans folx are usually thrown off Twitter but look … it’s a miracle.
@2 It’s Pride Month, so we’re going to see this kind of thing a lot for the next few weeks. Our office and one of my Meetup clubs are offering ‘LGBTQ+’ history and culture talks, which I can’t bear to even see advertised because I know there won’t be any L content in any of them, and I saw a banner on our office intranet that said ‘put your pronoun in your email sig’ (as this, presumably, shows support for ‘LGBTQ+’ people)–last I looked it had zero hits, and I haven’t seen any office emails with pronouns. One of our high-up bosses did it for a while last year, but I think he’s stopped.
1. Yeah, that follower count thing really sets my teeth on edge. I don’t have the slightest idea how many followers I have. I’ve never checked, don’t intend to and certainly wouldn’t want to tell anyone about it (I expect it’s very unimpressive anyway).
2. This Oz character’s mask – if he had one to begin with – has definitely slipped. He likes to refer to women as ‘fish’, which tells me all I need to know about him.
Trying to point out the issues becomes an exercise in hostility, because they are sure I am mistaken. They couldn’t be, because, well, they are trans and understand things I don’t.
I think trans people understand everything better than non-trans people. It’s a super-power: nature’s compensation for their perpetual status as “Most oppressedest group EVER.”
And, since he is a transwoman, he understands women’s issues better than I do, too.
And they understand this bestest of all. There’s no fighting it. That’s just the way things are.
It’s literal violence to stop following him on Twitter.
Then God only knows what I’ve done to him by not being on Twitter to follow him in the first place.
A bloodbath! You and me…a team. A team joined in blood, the blood of Oz Katerji.
Well that’s gonna stain, and virtual non-Twitter bloodstains are the WORST!
So if we’re a team, what’s the sport? (Assuming we are a sports team. “”Team does sound more legal than “gang,” but gangs are probably better at the whole “blood” thing.) Be warned, I’m not really a sporty person, nor am I tall enough to be gangly. My inability to skate almost disqualifies me from retaining Canadian citizenship (though I’ve been told it qulifies me to playing for the Maple Leafs). The winter dryness, constant COVID hand-washing, and doing the dishes, have left my knuckles cracked and bleeding, but I’m guessing that if a blood sport is drawing your own blood you’re probably doing it wrong…
Otter as mascot, or would that be disrespectful, inappropriate, ichthyophagous mammal appropriation? I’m open to suggestions.
Oh, this is rich:
I guess I can imagine him losing some followers, but a journalist in Great Britain supporting Trans Rights hardly sounds like a career-destroying move, or even like a risk at all. He’ll pick up more than he loses. How does he manage to see himself as the underdog? As the brave hero speaking Truth to Power and damned be the consequences?
Yesterday my corporate lawyer employers publicised their support for trans causes. They gave us links to Twitter and Linkedin and asked us to spread the word. They have got some award from Stonewall which they boast about in our standard emails. They are high earners and I doubt if any of them visualise themselves wiping windscreens at traffic lights. If OzK wants to be a martyr, he’s in the wrong time frame. I suppose he supports the USA’s withdrawal from Vietnam as another controversial opinion.
I’m astonished at this – OzK always seemed to be a well-informed, level-headed guy.
Beats the hell out of me.
I think the answer is cognitive dissonance and information bubbles. I’m repeatedly shocked at how little trans advocates know about things that have happened, even extending to well publicised cases such as Karen White. I’ve had TRAs swear blind that the only males to have ever raped a female prisoner are guards. There’s also a great deal of assumption going on (much of it fair assumption to someone uninformed) such as believing that LGBT organisations wouldn’t encourage conditions that harm lesbians, or that DV organisations would prioritise males who claim to be women over their main clientele which is female victims of male pattern violence, and the serious science and government bodies wouldn’t redefine women as a feeling a man could have. I believed all those things, and it took a great deal of hard evidence to make me not believe it. I think the hostile zeitgeist is far easier to prove, since it’s everywhere. But even that’s not enough, if you truly believe that trans are “punching up”, which is now acceptable to many parties who haven’t thought it through.
Arcadia, it isn’t just uniformed, it’s sometimes willful ignorance. I have a young trans friend who refuses to accept any of that; they get all their information from trans sites, and believe this is just anti-trans lies. They also believe that women never get booted off Twitter for “anti-trans” views, while trans people cannot get a voice because merely saying meekly, hey, I’m trans gets you kicked off. Trying to point out the issues becomes an exercise in hostility, because they are sure I am mistaken. They couldn’t be, because, well, they are trans and understand things I don’t. And, since he is a transwoman, he understands women’s issues better than I do, too.
Oz Katerji is apparently having some sort of meltdown on Twitter right now, raging mightily, threatening to sue someone for accusing him of “homophobia,” insisting that a woman tweeting “tell (transwomen) to stay the f*ck out of women’s changing rooms” is dehumanizing hatred of inhuman proportions, etc. etc.
OMG that is SO unexpected! People supporting trans folx are usually thrown off Twitter but look … it’s a miracle.
Also…don’t be telling us about your followers and unfollowers counts! It’s GROSS. Self-involved and petty and needy and absurd and GROSS.
It’s literal violence to stop following him on Twitter.
@2 It’s Pride Month, so we’re going to see this kind of thing a lot for the next few weeks. Our office and one of my Meetup clubs are offering ‘LGBTQ+’ history and culture talks, which I can’t bear to even see advertised because I know there won’t be any L content in any of them, and I saw a banner on our office intranet that said ‘put your pronoun in your email sig’ (as this, presumably, shows support for ‘LGBTQ+’ people)–last I looked it had zero hits, and I haven’t seen any office emails with pronouns. One of our high-up bosses did it for a while last year, but I think he’s stopped.
1. Yeah, that follower count thing really sets my teeth on edge. I don’t have the slightest idea how many followers I have. I’ve never checked, don’t intend to and certainly wouldn’t want to tell anyone about it (I expect it’s very unimpressive anyway).
2. This Oz character’s mask – if he had one to begin with – has definitely slipped. He likes to refer to women as ‘fish’, which tells me all I need to know about him.
I think trans people understand everything better than non-trans people. It’s a super-power: nature’s compensation for their perpetual status as “Most oppressedest group EVER.”
And they understand this bestest of all. There’s no fighting it. That’s just the way things are.
Then God only knows what I’ve done to him by not being on Twitter to follow him in the first place.
A bloodbath! You and me…a team. A team joined in blood, the blood of Oz Katerji.
Well that’s gonna stain, and virtual non-Twitter bloodstains are the WORST!
So if we’re a team, what’s the sport? (Assuming we are a sports team. “”Team does sound more legal than “gang,” but gangs are probably better at the whole “blood” thing.) Be warned, I’m not really a sporty person, nor am I tall enough to be gangly. My inability to skate almost disqualifies me from retaining Canadian citizenship (though I’ve been told it qulifies me to playing for the Maple Leafs). The winter dryness, constant COVID hand-washing, and doing the dishes, have left my knuckles cracked and bleeding, but I’m guessing that if a blood sport is drawing your own blood you’re probably doing it wrong…
Otter as mascot, or would that be disrespectful, inappropriate, ichthyophagous mammal appropriation? I’m open to suggestions.