There is no other context in which this question would even be asked. If someone were to ask such a thing, the response would rightly be immediate and brutal. That is because everyone knows what bad things could happen to a girl sleeping and showering largely unsupervised in a cabin full of boys. Including the mother. Sorry, mum, you are not “super protective”. You know the dangers but have allowed an ideology you know is bullshit to override every piece of good sense you have over safeguarding your daughter. How can you possibly imagine that any good will come of that? How can you not understand that you’re in a cult and that your daughter is a sacrifice?
I tried to list on Twitter the bad things that could happen to the girl in response to a (rhetorical) question from Ophelia, but I couldn’t, for two reasons:
1. It was heartbreaking. I couldn’t stop thinking about those things happening to that little girl and to many others. I’m not squeamish in the slightest but I figured that if I felt that bad writing it, causing other people to read it might not be helping. I’ll revisit that judgement in the next few hours, but I can say without hyperbole that it really won’t be easy.
2. The list is far, far too long for a tweet.
The screenshot shows two comments to that post. I haven’t seen them, but I will bet a limb* that they are wonderfully affirming.
We can not stay here.
* Admittedly, one of the ones that doesn’t work, I’m not stupid
Steven – the trouble is the Twitter comments are on Twitter while the post is on Facebook, so the “super-protective” mother won’t necessarily see the comments.
My prediction is that nothing much will happen at camp, but with big consequences later on. No sexual assaults, no bullying, no boys taking advantage of her. What will happen is the little pre-op trans boy will be very embarrassed, very self-conscious, and very sensitive to the little glances, raised eyebrows, and stifled smiles.
The result will likely be a burning desire to get a double mastectomy, go on hormones, and never, ever again attract that kind of attention. She’s going to interpret her discomfort as gender dysphoria. If she might have had second thoughts about transitioning before, she’ll have “learned” at camp that it’s clearly the right thing to do.
Sastra: It’s of a kind with the self-fulfilling, self-justifying nature of Christian predictions of disbelief and persecution. Christianity’s claims are laughable, so of fucking course Christians get laughed at, and they take that as proof that the Bible was right all along, because it predicted they’d be laughed at.
Sastra, if the boys at the camp are of an age with the girl then I tend to agree that she is probably safe from physical harm, and even then I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of at least some ‘accidental’ touching in the showers, but if her camp-mates include older teenage boys she’ll be lucky if she returns home unscathed.
There is no other context in which this question would even be asked. If someone were to ask such a thing, the response would rightly be immediate and brutal. That is because everyone knows what bad things could happen to a girl sleeping and showering largely unsupervised in a cabin full of boys. Including the mother. Sorry, mum, you are not “super protective”. You know the dangers but have allowed an ideology you know is bullshit to override every piece of good sense you have over safeguarding your daughter. How can you possibly imagine that any good will come of that? How can you not understand that you’re in a cult and that your daughter is a sacrifice?
I tried to list on Twitter the bad things that could happen to the girl in response to a (rhetorical) question from Ophelia, but I couldn’t, for two reasons:
1. It was heartbreaking. I couldn’t stop thinking about those things happening to that little girl and to many others. I’m not squeamish in the slightest but I figured that if I felt that bad writing it, causing other people to read it might not be helping. I’ll revisit that judgement in the next few hours, but I can say without hyperbole that it really won’t be easy.
2. The list is far, far too long for a tweet.
The screenshot shows two comments to that post. I haven’t seen them, but I will bet a limb* that they are wonderfully affirming.
We can not stay here.
* Admittedly, one of the ones that doesn’t work, I’m not stupid
“Support Network for Parents of Trans Kids”
No matter how insane your belief system, the internet has a support network that can affirm your insanity.
I thought the World Wide Web would increase human knowledge but it seems to have dumbed us down more.
Oh god, that poor daughter. Her trendystupid parent/s are packing her off to a weekend of virtually guaranteed harassment.
“[I’m] super protective” and “[she] wears a binder” are mutually incompatible.
“[I’m] super protective” and “[s]he will be sleeping/showing/changing around cis boys” constitute actual grounds for CPS intervention.
Jesus F Christ. Every time I read this kind of shit, I get worried for my nieces and nephews and cousins.
#1 latsot, I read through the Twitter comments. Rest easy; others have done what you didn’t.
Poor kid is going to learn the difference between boys and girls (and which one she is) the hard way.
Steven – the trouble is the Twitter comments are on Twitter while the post is on Facebook, so the “super-protective” mother won’t necessarily see the comments.
My prediction is that nothing much will happen at camp, but with big consequences later on. No sexual assaults, no bullying, no boys taking advantage of her. What will happen is the little pre-op trans boy will be very embarrassed, very self-conscious, and very sensitive to the little glances, raised eyebrows, and stifled smiles.
The result will likely be a burning desire to get a double mastectomy, go on hormones, and never, ever again attract that kind of attention. She’s going to interpret her discomfort as gender dysphoria. If she might have had second thoughts about transitioning before, she’ll have “learned” at camp that it’s clearly the right thing to do.
Sastra: It’s of a kind with the self-fulfilling, self-justifying nature of Christian predictions of disbelief and persecution. Christianity’s claims are laughable, so of fucking course Christians get laughed at, and they take that as proof that the Bible was right all along, because it predicted they’d be laughed at.
Sastra, if the boys at the camp are of an age with the girl then I tend to agree that she is probably safe from physical harm, and even then I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of at least some ‘accidental’ touching in the showers, but if her camp-mates include older teenage boys she’ll be lucky if she returns home unscathed.
Aos, experience tells me otherwise, my 12 to granddaughter is suffering PTSD after an attemptedrape. By 2 11 to boys at school.
Oh, jesus, Roj, I’m sorry.
Roj, how awful. I’m so sorry to hear that.
Kids are watching easily-available pornography on the internet at extremely young ages. It is not benign. One of many articles on the subject:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/allthemoms/health-safety/2017/10/12/how-pornography-damages-child-development/34917661/