Drawing criticism
Typical Pink News way of framing “he said a thing we don’t like”:
Richard Dawkins drew criticism Saturday (10 April) for a provocative tweet that compared trans people to Rachel Dolezal.
No he didn’t draw criticism; people decided to criticise him.
On Saturday morning, an entire minute after tweeting about the late Prince Phillip’s top hat, the evolutionary biologist and outspoken atheist abruptly gave his take on trans lives that absolutely nobody asked for.
Remind me – how does Twitter work, again? You’re supposed to wait for someone to ask you a question before you tweet? You mustn’t tweet about subject X unless someone asks you to? Have I got that right?
Dawkins compared trans folk to Rachel Dolezal, the white woman who appropriated a Black identity while pursuing Black activism and academia.
Note the “folk.” Why folk? Why is it so often folk? What is that?
Also what is it to “pursue academia”?
But to the point, yes, he compared people who say they are a sex they are not to Dolezal’s saying she’s Black when she’s not. There are core similarities, you see.
Dolezal once likened herself to trans people. At the time, her words were rebutted by the psychologist and author Guilaine Kinouani, who told BBC Newsnight: “Comparing [being trans] with trans-racialism is a fallacy. It’s a false equivalency, which in my mind doesn’t advance our understanding of race, of transgender issues, neither of Black womanhood. [She’s a] white woman who’s quite oblivious to the fact that Black women’s experiences and bodies have been appropriated.”
Wo, well that’s us told!
Kidding. What a bizarre item to choose to support the case you’re trying to make. “This one person said that’s false.” Not really a conversation-stopper!
Similarly, Dawkins’ comment quickly became a lightning rod for criticism, with trans folk and allies responding with frustration and exhaustion.
Folk again, and passive-aggressive imputation of guilt again. Dawkins’s tweet didn’t “become a lightning rod”; some people chose to respond to it. I’ve done some responding to Dawkins myself in the distant past, but I don’t think I called him a lightning rod.
His argument has long been debunked by, you know, science and the very advocacy group for “reason and science” Dawkins founded.
That part is true.
I’ve often wondered the same.
(emphasis mine)
From James Lindsay’s occasionally amusing Social Justice Encyclopedia entries on Folks and Folx.
It took me a minute to parse that last tweet. I’m used to seeing “shout out” as a positive acknowledgement, like “shout out to all people from Dillersville, my hometown!” or “Shout out to the author of the novel, without whom this film would not exist!” Not “Let me have the attention of a bunch of people I’m going to disagree with or criticize”. I see it’s the latter in this tweet, now.
This is a rebuttal? It sounds like a playground rebuttal: “My momma said!”
As for science rejecting the idea of two sexes, all I have to say is WTF? No, though there are some scientists that appear to believe that. Against the evidence. Against reason. Against…well, science. Yes, there are subtle differences within the sexes, and overlap of characteristics, and intersex, and ambiguity in secondary sexual characteristics. None of those things demonstrates that there are not sexes, only that living beings are complex and messy.
Or perhaps commitment to a rejection of any possibility of language at all. :-)
And this is different from “a man who’s quite oblivious to the fact that women’s experiences and bodies have been appropriated” how?
To be sure, Dolezal was a well respected leader in the NAACP, and fought for the cause of Black men and women. She isn’t actually Black, but I’m convinced she thinks she is, and it shouldn’t really matter much (except of course for it not being true); there are white people working in the NAACP. The TIMs working as hard for the rights of women are difficult to find. (There are some good examples we all know, but I don’t think it’s widespread.)
Now if only they could imagine the frustration and exhaustion of women fighting for their rights.
Have any trans-fans done more than declare that the Dolezal comparison is a thought crime?
If you can’t even attempt to support the claim, you’re in more epistemic trouble than you should feel comfortable with.
[She’s a] (man) who’s quite oblivious to the fact that women’s experiences and bodies have been appropriated.
Has there been any response other than ‘burn the witch!’
Plus, I’m not aware of Dolezal threatening people who say she is not black with a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire, or telling them to die in a grease fire. No one is shouting TBAB and insisting on enforcement. While I’m on the subject, I would just like to remind you that TOAO.