Despite widespread social media activity
Politico reports that the Pentagon says it did everything right so shut up.
One obvious complication here is that Trump stuffed a lot of his people into the Pentagon in preparation for the coup so it could be Trump’s people now saying don’t be silly of course we didn’t help the coup attempt.
But Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy and other top officials noted that in the days leading up to Wednesday, federal and D.C. law enforcement officials requested only 340 unarmed DoD personnel to do specific missions, primarily traffic and crowd control… At the time, officials had a wide range of estimates for the size of the crowds that would descend on Washington for Wednesday’s procedural vote to certify President-elect Joe Biden’s win, from 2,000 to 80,000 people, McCarthy said. In an earlier press conference, he said the idea of rioters storming the Capitol wasn’t in his “wildest imagination.”
Well why not? I wasn’t expecting it either but it’s not my job to keep track of security threats, but it is his job. Word is the planning was visible all over social media, and surely it is someone’s job to pay attention to coup-planning and pass the information on to people responsible for security. They certainly seemed to expect, or to be eager to pretend to expect, massive violence and insurrection last summer when it was protests against racism and police violence, so why not now when it’s literal plans to overturn an election by force? WHY NOT NOW? Why wasn’t it in Ryan’s wildest imagination that people who were publicly planning to storm the Capitol would do just that?
Despite widespread social media activity that suggested the protests might be violent, federal and local officials believed they had sufficient personnel to handle the situation, said chief Pentagon spokesperson Jonathan Hoffman, noting that the Pentagon does not conduct domestic intelligence collection.
Ok but does the Pentagon listen to people who do conduct domestic intelligence collection? Pentagon people were there for Trump’s violent clearance of Lafayette Park and march to the church, so what was different about this recent march and insurrection?
The Justice Department and other law enforcement told the Pentagon repeatedly that they had no indications that there would be “significant violent protests,” said Ken Rapuano, the assistant secretary of defense for homeland security.
If that’s true then the people who told the Pentagon that were in on the plot. The “indications” were out there in public, including Trump’s tweets.
Once the protests turned violent and it became clear the Capitol Police would need backup, Miller moved to approve Bowser’s request for additional D.C. Guardsmen, and later authorized thousands more personnel from six states to help civil authorities maintain order in the city, the officials said.
Why later? Why not instantly?
Army officials initially expressed concern about the request, because part of the original agreement was to keep Guardsmen away from the Capitol on Wednesday, a defense official said. Officials have messaged for weeks that the military will have no role in determining the outcome of the election.
Yeaaaah I don’t think that’s supposed to mean “the military will stand by and watch placidly as armed fascists seize the Capitol and murder half the Congress.”
Top Pentagon leaders were criticized this summer when National Guardsmen helped clear Lafayette Square of peaceful protesters in order for Trump to stage a photo op in front of a church holding a Bible.
You couldn’t make it up. In the summer Trump staged a fascist military suppression of peaceful protest and the people cried foul, so in the winter Trump staged a violent coup to wipe out the Democratic half of Congress and hand the election to himself and the military watched it on tv.
Yeah, this is such nonsense from the Pentagon, as well as the Capitol Police, the Sergeants-At-Arms, etc.
Forget for a moment that these are Trump supporters, etc. If you know that thousands of people are coming to D.C. to protest, you have a security plan ready. I don’t care if it’s Trumpalos or BLM or the Tea Party or the Million Mom March, or the Coalition For Peace And Harmony And Cute Puppies. You have a plan for crowd control, whether that’s barricades, cops on horseback, or troops in riot gear. And you have a plan to reinforce those forces if things get ugly.
I say this not from any personal expertise in the area (I have none), but from various interviews I’ve read this week from actual security experts. And in fact, the Capitol Police have traditionally had a plan for such situations — one former officer reported this week that one time Louis Farrkhan showed up with just a handful of people (literally single digits), and every off-duty officer was called in and put on alert.
Add back in the fact that these were delusional people, openly plotting online to “storm the Capitol” and talking about a “revolution” and “taking back our country,” people who bragged about their weapons, etc., and you didn’t have to be psychic to see a potential threat. I didn’t think it would come to this, but only because I thought the security forces would do their job. I figured the most likely scenario was some Proud Boys getting into scraps with cops, perhaps some tear gas, etc.
That’s certainly what I’ve gathered from reading security experts and legal experts etc too. It’s all SUCH BULLSHIT.
I’m certain that the reason security wasn’t prepared is because they were Trump-friendly people who chose not to be prepared. Either because they suffer from the same brain-rot that is typical of Trump-friendly people where they believe their side is good and righteous and patriotic and everything bad is because of democrats or antifa, or because they actively wanted the coup to succeed. There’s no other explanation that makes sense.
Do you know if they have a website where I could sign up? ;-)
But…these guys are white! What do you expect, trouble? From white guys? With great big guns? And homemade napalm? Naw. Couldn’t happen.
Seriously, I contrast this with the police response to women working for suffrage standing in front of the Wilson White House holding signs and handing out pamphlets. They were hauled off to jail. No one let them go home and then tried to go looking for them later. Peaceful protests? Bring out the tear gas, the riot gear. White guys with guns? Yawn.
Yeah but he’s a black Muslim, so… you know…
Musubk @#3:
My numbering throughout. Can I suggest [3.] they wanted to start the insurrection train rolling and see what happened next? That would be anything between [4.] the whole thing fizzling out and [5.] the start of US Civil War Mk 2.
There were likely those who hoped for a Trumpian insurrection, Pence not going to water and Joe Biden hastily packing his bags for a long holiday at some secret destination where recognition by some passing stranger would be not so likely (say Oodnadatta, South Australia). Sadly for them, such hopes were clearly dashed.
As for the rest of them, as well as any military planners involved, it looks like they could not organise a blowfly plague in an outback shithouse.
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https://traveloutbackaustralia.com/oodnadatta-track.html/