Shame and fear of damnation
Thus we are reminded why intense religious cults are not benign.
Rebekah Powers was 11 when members of her faith group, the People of Praise, gathered around as she sat on a chair and laid their hands on her to pray. Powers’ sister had shown a gift for speaking in tongues, a defining trait of the followers of the small charismatic Christian community, and Rebekah was expected to do the same.
She couldn’t do it.
“I couldn’t get it, and I stayed there an hour and a half before they gave up and finally said, ‘You just have blockage. You need to just work on your sin and be more open,” she said.
There. That’s why. She was eleven. “Sin” is not real.
She left the group when she was 18, i.e. old enough that they couldn’t force her to stay.
It has taken decades of therapy and hard work to overcome the intense feelings of shame and fear of damnation that she said marked her childhood. The Christian faith group, based in South Bend, Indiana, dominated every aspect of her early life, she said.
There. That’s why. Those feelings are poison, and it’s evil (and if you like “sinful”) to force them on helpless children whose brains aren’t yet developed enough to resist adult indoctrination.
And one of the adherents of that nasty cult is the nominee to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg. It’s such a profound, searching insult.
Democrats have already stated that neither Barrett’s Catholic faith nor her membership in the People of Praise – which has never publicly been discussed or disclosed, but has been examined in press reports – will be raised in their questioning of the nominee.
But it should be. It absolutely should be.
It should be but it won’t be because we have this squeamishness about questioning religions, plus we know Republicans will play the “they hate God!!!” card for all it’s worth.
Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader who is seeking to confirm Barrett before the end of October, has nevertheless said that media reports and some remarks by senators about a newly discovered public statement by Barrett in opposition to Roe v Wade, were “disgusting attacks” on faith. He said they risked a return to the “tropes of the 1960s”, when it was feared by some anti-Catholic bigots that John F Kennedy would act in the interest of the pope instead of the US.
Like that.
It’s not mere “bigotry” to worry about the role of Catholicism in a nominee’s thinking. Some people can rigidly separate their religion from their work, but others can’t. We shouldn’t just assume that everyone can and will, nor should we necessarily take their word for it that they will.
But Powers, who is one of a handful of former People of Praise members who contacted the Guardian to describe their difficult experience in the group (using her married name), and some religious scholars who have studied charismatic Christian communities, say Barrett’s membership in this specific religious community does raise legitimate questions. They want to examine how views that are integral to the group’s core beliefs – from its treatment of women to the separation of church and state – might influence her. They are also distinct from most mainstream Catholic faith.
Of course her membership raises questions, and so does the more common or garden membership in a religion. “Ordinary” Catholicism adamantly opposes abortion; we get to question that.
“We were Catholic, but the Catholicism was on the side. Our life, all of our friends, all of the randoms who were living in our household, were the [People of Praise] community. It was God,” she said. “The brainwashing and the groupthink, the female subjugation of being there to serve and listen to your spiritual head. It was so devaluing. To me, it instilled such problems.”
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Thomas Csordas, an anthropology professor at the University of California San Diego who has studied the issues around communities like People of Praise, said it was wrong to focus attention on whether the group could be a considered a “cult” in the spirit of Jim Jones’s Peoples Temple. It was much more appropriate, he said, to examine what he called the “intentional community” of People of Praise and its nature of being “conservative, authoritarian, hierarchical, and patriarchal”.
Those qualities all march together. They’re bad qualities.
Massimo Faggioli, a professor of theology at Villanova University, said that even if senators declined to question Barrett about her faith, the issues deserved to be aired in other forums because groups like People of Praise, he said, do
esreject a secular view of separation between church and state.“I don’t think we should put her Catholicism on trial, but the Catholic conservative legal movement is putting liberalism on trial. They want to change a certain understanding of the liberal order of individual rights, and that is coming from the religious worldview of Catholic groups,” he said.
The religious worldview which is also a political worldview. They’re far from apolitical. It’s Francoism updated.
This. So much this. I have been out of Christianity for over 40 years, and I still deal with this nearly every day. It is like shards of glass stuck in your brain. No matter how much you know on an intellectual level that these are fallacious beliefs, that you are not a bad person, you still respond to certain things in the way you have been trained to respond. I have been trying to root out those shards of glass in many years of therapy, and when I think I have gotten them all, I leave therapy, sigh with relief, and go about my business. Until a new one shows up. And the wounds fester. They become infected. They ooze pus into your whole being that can consume you if you don’t have the strength or support to resist.
In addition, people like me, like Barrett, are raised to believe everyone else is wrong. I moved past that, thanks to falling into a set in high school that helped me examine my beliefs. Barrett has not moved past that. You should not put someone on the SCOTUS if they have such a view, if they cannot listen to other arguments without having already decided they are wrong. That is dangerously dogmatic.
I would be perfectly happy if the Catholic contingent on the court decreased until it was just Sonia Sotomayor. She is one who appears to be able to keep her religion and her work separate. The rest? Not so much.
I just converted.
Look, if an 11-year-old child says she is speaking in tongues, then she is speaking in tongues. If she identifies as a vessel for the Holy Spirit, then who am I to question it? Children are always correct about these things.
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Screechy, the wording of that comment reminded of something I read on FTB a couple of months ago.
A blogger (and medical doctor, if you please) put up a post about a Q&A on transgender issues and rights that she’d had with her daughter in which the child supplied all the ‘right’ answers to qualify as acceptably ‘woke’. I’m not going to question how much of what her daughter was reported to have said were the kid’s own words beyond saying that for a twelve-year-old, almost certainly autistic child with mental health issues (the bloggers own words, not mine) she came across as suspiciously old beyond her years.
The message that the post was intended to convey is obvious; if this kid, with the problems I mentioned above plus more, can understand transgender issues so completely, with no prompting and with her answers coming entirely from her own intuition, then it has to be obvious that the subject of transgenderism really isn’t so complex, and if it isn’t complex then those people who do not accept that trans people are who and what they say they are deliberately misunderstanding in order to push their own agenda.
I’m wondering how gullible one has to be to think that this child’s supposed take on things even scratches the surface of understanding such a complex subject (or set of subjects), the causes of which cover so many medical and psychological disciplines, and which those who claim transgender status have probably as little real understanding as the rest of us.
https://freethoughtblogs.com/geekyhumanist/2020/07/21/a-cis-child-gives-her-opinion-on-anti-trans-myths/