Izz wut the bible teechez
Ah he’s got a Facebook post on the subject too. Glutton for punishment this guy.
His profile has Seattle Pacific University right at the top. SPU is at the bottom of the hill from me (north side, away from downtown) and across the canal from Fremont, which is now Google city. It’s small, and Christian, and a little bit creepy. I always see invisible scare quotes on the “university” bit.
So I found the controversy button on social media. Pretty neat feature. There were some helpful comments at the beginning of the post. After that, Zuckerberg let the monkeys out.
No, Zuckerberg doesn’t assign people to comment on your posts, chum.
Here is what the Bible teaches. Ephesians 5:23 says, “The husband is the head of the wife.” It also says in verse 28: “Husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself.” The husband should love his wife as he loves himself. This means the husband is responsible for his wife and must take care of her as himself. This means he is responsible for how she votes. The husband should not be abusive or a jerk about this authority and he should seek counsel from his wife on elections. But at the end of the day he is responsible and should make sure she votes just like he does.
Here is what Middlemarch teaches, here is what To the Lighthouse teaches, here is what King Lear teaches, here is what the number 10 bus schedule teaches. Writing is just writing, and it’s useful to keep in mind who wrote the writing, and why, and when, and to what end. The Bible is just another book, compiled from a lot of smaller books, and it’s not something that anyone has to obey the way we have to obey the flight attendants when the plane is about to make a hard landing. It’s just a damn book. I don’t care what Ephesians number number says, and it doesn’t give anyone the right to tyrannize over other people.
The Bible also teaches that the wife is to submit to her husband. Titus 2:5 says: “Wives are to be obedient to their own husbands.” And Ephesians 5:24 says: “Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands” (ESV). Notice the language there: wives should submit in everything. That is really clear language. The wife should submit in voting issues.
“Blah blah blah blah look it’s right here IN THE BOOK.” We don’t care, sunshine. Act like an adult. Better yet, treat your wife like an adult. Do both.
The bible also teaches that pi = 3, so…
Yeah, I remember Jesus saying something like this during Tiberius’s campaign for Emperor. No wonder they crucified him.
Here’s what Anna Bijns said: “Unyoked is best! Happy the woman without a man!”
James, meh, close enough. It’s not like any literal bible believer is ever going to build or develop something more high tech than a donkey cart. That’s what Romans were for with their pagan science, philosophy and engineering gibberish.
James,
I always wondered why there are no circular cathedrals. They obviously could not make ends meet.
I am ignoring Omar’s joek.
I love the way these blokes extrapolate “the husband is responsible for how his wife votes” from “love your wife”.
I once had a big argument online with one of these types. My premise was Paul was expressly going against Jesus’ teachings with this crap. Paul was interested in maintaining control of the communities, and that was certainly why the Nicaean Council popped it into the bible. Absolutely nothing to do with Christianity, all about political and financial control. Man nearly exploded.
I also once saw a married couple from a religious group that does ‘submissive wives’ have a roaring argument during discussion of a rule and it was the most glorious thing I have ever seen. Two equal people arguing. It made me feel a bit better how submissive wives work in practice, possibly.
When I was young, I embarrassingly thought feminists would see radical change and a better world for women as our feminist sons grew up and misogyny just wouldn’t happen. But men will always see women as “other”; our sons don’t want to rock the boat/enjoy the privileges; and there will always be too many arsehole men like Mr. Tell Your Wife How To Vote. We will always be fighting against this shit. Always.
Fairly sure coercing another person’s vote is a felony.
Fortunately, given the gender gap in actual voting, he seems to be in the distinct minority.
I can’t immediately think of any cathedrals, but there are certainly circular churches. One I used see often from the distance (but never went inside) when I was at school is St Chad’s, in Shrewsbury (UK, not Massachusetts).
@learie
I keep trying to tell Xtians that they do not follow Christ, or they’d be Jews. They are Paulines, following the religion Paul founded in Jesus’ name. Jesus founded no new religion, Jesus explicitly said his mission was the the Jew, not the Gentile.
Their entire religion is founded on the scribblings of Paul.
AND…that slaves should honor their masters. Ephesians 6:5, Colossians 3:22.
Think how many votes that might mean…even at 3/5ths per slave.
I grew up in a household with one of those “submissive” wives. She was about as submissive as a lioness submits to a gazelle. But she called herself submissive, and didn’t hold a job outside the home, so that was good enough for them.
I think either Roll to Disbelieve or No Longer Quivering (possibly both) said that in practice a “submissive” wife tended to just be hyper passive-aggressive.
Yes, that’s my experience. Both my mother and my older sister practiced this; my younger sister, not particularly devout, did marry a smug, domineering man who is like the “skeptical” know-it-alls. She practiced it, too. My mother told me all these tricks…this is what you do, dear, so the man will feel like a man.
I said I wasn’t interested in that. I would rather have a man who was a partner. She thought that sounded irrational and unwomanly, but that is what I got, and I have a happier marriage than any of the other women in my family. The only other happy marriage in our family is my younger brother, who married an educated woman and they also lived as equal partners.
Paul gets a bad rap, thanks mainly to later forgeries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle_and_women