From the bits I’ve seen the Labour Party’s internal divisions are now exposed at full roar. Various Corbanites are blaming Jews, Terfs and others, while the more conservative Blairites are openly blaming the Momentum movement, telling them to fuck off back to their universities. Labour and Lib Dems simply didn’t have their shit together internally and so didn’t have a clear idea of what they were going to achieve out of the election campaign and most importantly HOW they were going to achieve it. Boris on the other hand knew exactly what he wanted and how he was going to get there.
Democracy in action without a doubt. The Tories have won a resounding majority openly campaigning on Brexit. For good or ill, the UK is getting what they’ve asked for. The big question is Scotland…
A good and very prescient book that seizes on the fundamental reasons (which is to say, not the hapless Corbyn, or Jews or TERFs) why this last UK (for how long?) election went as it did is ‘Ruling the Void: The Hollowing of Western Democracy’ by Peter Mair (1956-2011). It was published in 2013.
Ah, I have mercifully been spared knowledge of this person’s existence in the past. I shall strive to avoid future contact…
Rob, the scattergun blame game started pretty much immediately, although I did miss any mention of terfs in the mix. Mind you, my Twitter usage has reduced to a brief skim every few days, so it’s easy to miss things.
I am now going to go back to my room and do some more crying for the country I used to be proud of. Then I shall get really, really angry and see what I can help to do to get it back.
If anything, I would turn the accusation on its head. The failures of the left may not explain why so many people vote for the right, but that still leaves the question of why more people aren’t voting for the left. When the only available alternatives to the Trumps and Johnsons of the world are either a lukewarm centrism that amounts to little more than a watered-down version of the right or the craziness of the alt-left (characterized by an emphasis on differences between groups of people over similarities, an obsession with validating rather than questioning boxes and labels, narcissism, special-snowflakeism, callout-culture, a preference for shutting down rather than engaging in debate, a tendency to spend most of their energy attacking and calling out the “wrong kind” of leftists rather than the likes of Trump and Johnson etc.), we can see how it must be tempting to “wash Your hands” of the whole affair just to be able to say “Don’t blame me. I didn’t vote for any of them”, even if this amounts to de facto support for the right.
Actually, the popularity of the far right is probably not entirely unrelated to the failures of the left either. It may not be rational to join the right because You’re angry about the excesses of the alt-left (in an “any enemy of my enemy is my friend” sort of way), but as we all know humans are not rational. When You go out of Your way to specify that You’re only talking about the problems with certain ideas (Islam, innate gender theory, etc.) and not attacking any actual people, only to be accused of spewing “phobias” and “hatred”, “denying rights”, and even advocating violence against real live human beings because of their skin color or other irrelevant traits, You might eventually become so angry that You no longer care who wins – or who else gets hurt as a result – as longs as these people lose (like a bee that commits suicide just to cause an intruder as much pain as possible). I can think of at least one example of a person who turned 180° and went and joined the Slymepit crowd (the same people who had until that point been bullying her as much as anyone) after a particularly bad run-in with the Pharyngula mob. I seem to remember her reasoning at the time going something like “If they (her attackers) can be that dishonest in their attacks on me, who else haven’t they been honest about?”. Once You get to that point its easy to see how You might start to think – rightly or not – that “Maybe the Trumps and Johnsons aren’t so bad either”.
And as many others have pointed out, the cowardice of the Left when it comes to dealing with sensitive topics like Islam and trans issues, as well as their failure to even admit that racism and transphobia respectively may in fact not be the only parts of the problem, makes the right seem like fearless truth-tellers. As lousy as the arguments of the alt-right may be, at least they’re not hiding from debate. By contrast the alt-left’s preference for “no-platforming” and silencing rather than refuting their opponents, makes it seem like they don’t have any real arguments. Which, of course, they don’t.
He does describe himself in his twitter profile as a comedian and actor – which makes it tempting to think he’s playing an absurd caricature of online leftists for satirical purposes. Just trying to be charitable to him.
This video was created before the UK election, but I think people will enjoy it. Ben Comeau, six voice fugue on an original subject, with text “Boris Johnson is a lying shit”.
Where the actual fuck did that come from?
This
guyperson (oops, need to be careful) is a fucking idiot.You neatly answered your own question. Arthur Chu is a renowned (Twitter-renowned) idiot.
Graham
From the bits I’ve seen the Labour Party’s internal divisions are now exposed at full roar. Various Corbanites are blaming Jews, Terfs and others, while the more conservative Blairites are openly blaming the Momentum movement, telling them to fuck off back to their universities. Labour and Lib Dems simply didn’t have their shit together internally and so didn’t have a clear idea of what they were going to achieve out of the election campaign and most importantly HOW they were going to achieve it. Boris on the other hand knew exactly what he wanted and how he was going to get there.
Democracy in action without a doubt. The Tories have won a resounding majority openly campaigning on Brexit. For good or ill, the UK is getting what they’ve asked for. The big question is Scotland…
#1 Arthur Chu is one of those people who is not just woke, but strenuously woke. Every ridiculous excess of wokeness is something he supports.
Gender-critical feminists are not the reason Labour lost 42 seats, nor the reason why the Conservatives gained 66.
A good and very prescient book that seizes on the fundamental reasons (which is to say, not the hapless Corbyn, or Jews or TERFs) why this last UK (for how long?) election went as it did is ‘Ruling the Void: The Hollowing of Western Democracy’ by Peter Mair (1956-2011). It was published in 2013.
Ah, I have mercifully been spared knowledge of this person’s existence in the past. I shall strive to avoid future contact…
Rob, the scattergun blame game started pretty much immediately, although I did miss any mention of terfs in the mix. Mind you, my Twitter usage has reduced to a brief skim every few days, so it’s easy to miss things.
I am now going to go back to my room and do some more crying for the country I used to be proud of. Then I shall get really, really angry and see what I can help to do to get it back.
If anything, I would turn the accusation on its head. The failures of the left may not explain why so many people vote for the right, but that still leaves the question of why more people aren’t voting for the left. When the only available alternatives to the Trumps and Johnsons of the world are either a lukewarm centrism that amounts to little more than a watered-down version of the right or the craziness of the alt-left (characterized by an emphasis on differences between groups of people over similarities, an obsession with validating rather than questioning boxes and labels, narcissism, special-snowflakeism, callout-culture, a preference for shutting down rather than engaging in debate, a tendency to spend most of their energy attacking and calling out the “wrong kind” of leftists rather than the likes of Trump and Johnson etc.), we can see how it must be tempting to “wash Your hands” of the whole affair just to be able to say “Don’t blame me. I didn’t vote for any of them”, even if this amounts to de facto support for the right.
Actually, the popularity of the far right is probably not entirely unrelated to the failures of the left either. It may not be rational to join the right because You’re angry about the excesses of the alt-left (in an “any enemy of my enemy is my friend” sort of way), but as we all know humans are not rational. When You go out of Your way to specify that You’re only talking about the problems with certain ideas (Islam, innate gender theory, etc.) and not attacking any actual people, only to be accused of spewing “phobias” and “hatred”, “denying rights”, and even advocating violence against real live human beings because of their skin color or other irrelevant traits, You might eventually become so angry that You no longer care who wins – or who else gets hurt as a result – as longs as these people lose (like a bee that commits suicide just to cause an intruder as much pain as possible). I can think of at least one example of a person who turned 180° and went and joined the Slymepit crowd (the same people who had until that point been bullying her as much as anyone) after a particularly bad run-in with the Pharyngula mob. I seem to remember her reasoning at the time going something like “If they (her attackers) can be that dishonest in their attacks on me, who else haven’t they been honest about?”. Once You get to that point its easy to see how You might start to think – rightly or not – that “Maybe the Trumps and Johnsons aren’t so bad either”.
And as many others have pointed out, the cowardice of the Left when it comes to dealing with sensitive topics like Islam and trans issues, as well as their failure to even admit that racism and transphobia respectively may in fact not be the only parts of the problem, makes the right seem like fearless truth-tellers. As lousy as the arguments of the alt-right may be, at least they’re not hiding from debate. By contrast the alt-left’s preference for “no-platforming” and silencing rather than refuting their opponents, makes it seem like they don’t have any real arguments. Which, of course, they don’t.
Shorter Bjarte: Cancel culture got cancelled.
Arthur appears to be the woke equivalent of Sarah Palin – willfully, arrogantly ignorant. I fart in his general direction.
He does describe himself in his twitter profile as a comedian and actor – which makes it tempting to think he’s playing an absurd caricature of online leftists for satirical purposes. Just trying to be charitable to him.
This video was created before the UK election, but I think people will enjoy it. Ben Comeau, six voice fugue on an original subject, with text “Boris Johnson is a lying shit”.
https://youtu.be/X_G-FBSf1UI