Trans activist rejoices at woman’s impending death
Less than four years ago, in October 2015, I wrote about Magdalen Berns’s candidacy for Women’s Liberation Group Convenor at Edinburgh University and the obnoxious way they labeled her “whorephobic” because she’s not pro-pimp. She wrote a guest post here in January.
She promptly went on to become a genius feminist star on YouTube – so the misogynist bit of the universe took her out with glioblastoma, pretty much the worst brain cancer there is. Last week she moved to hospice care. My opinion of these latter developments is that they suck.
“Rachel” McKinnon on the other hand is a fan.
Eh, if they’re a trash human actively trying to harm marginalized people because of who they are? I think it’s justified.
Even Adrian Harrop was taken aback.
You honestly think it’s acceptable or a sign of decency to take pleasure in hearing that another human being is going to die, at a relatively very young age, from an inoperable and incurable brain tumour? And then to express that pleasure publicly on social media?
Again, if they’re going out of their way to harm an entire marginalized group? Sure. I’ve already posted about why it’s okay to be happy about shitty people like Koch dying.
Maybe live by the maxim whereby, “Don’t be the sort of person who people you’ve harmed are happy you’re dying of brain cancer”
Oh dear, McKinnon is misunderstood.
And, again, transphobes can’t read: I never said that *I* am happy that Magdalen is dying of brain cancer. I merely said that I think such an attitude is ethically justified when the person dying has engaged in extreme harassment of a marginalized group (she’s a HUGE transphobe).
Hey, remember when an entire sports stadium of people started CHEERING at the announcement that Bin Laden was killed?
Go clutch your pearls somewhere else, transphobes.
Hey, one, I do remember the raucous cheering outside the White House, and it made me cringe.
But also…
Magdalen is IN NO WAY COMPARABLE TO OSAMA FUCKING BIN LADEN.
McKinnon continues to bring shame and disgrace to the College of Charleston in South Carolina. Sad the the big bosses there seem to be too afraid of the trans activists to get this evil misogynist to at least TRY to behave like a decent human being online.
I’ve seen a lot of Berns’s videos where she said transwomen were actually men. Which—I get it—is considered disrespectful by people who believe transwomen are women. But I didn’t see any of her videos where she “actively tried to harm” anyone. Maybe those were the secret videos?
I think McKinnon could do with some glioblastoma himself… Ha Ha Ha Ha!
Are we laughing now? Is it ethical?
Despicable.
JUST ONCE I’d like someone to explain the ACTUAL HARM caused to trans identifying people by gender critical feminists. Disagreement is not “harm.” Criticism is not “harm.” Reciting factual statements (Woman =adult human female. Lesbian = female homosexual. Homosexuality = same sex atraction. Sex is binary. Sex is immutible. Men are not women. Have I got them all?) is not “harm.” Has Magdalen physically assaulted anyone? Ever? Has she threatened or intimidated anyone? Ever? Has she done anything other than speak out for the rights of women and girls and lesbians particularly? What statements has she made that are even WRONG? I get that her opinions are less than popular amongst TIMs, but when has she ever hurt them? And no, “misgendering” is not “harm” or “violence.” It is a recognition of the true state of the world and a refusal to bow to an ideology that denies that reality. Magdalen is not woke; she is awake. There’s a difference. She is awake to the actual harm and violence already done to women and girls for the sake of the feelings of men. Harm and violence which TRAs discount, disregard and deny. She will have done more good in her brief time on this Earth than most of us could ever hope to achieve.
I’m not sure I’m quite ready to take ethical pointers from a man who cheats at cycling by competing against women. Particularly from one whose very thesis denied the necessity of speaking with the warrant of knowledge and truth when making assertions.
And dude, even Adrian fucking Harrop thinks you’ve crossed the line.
Don’t be fooled by Adrian Harrop. Remember what you know about him.
He doesn’t think McKinnon crossed a line. He’s performing empathy for his audience on Twitter, which now includes his medical supervisors as he’s been warned about his online harassment.
This is a performance. It’s one narc throwing the other under the bus.
YNnB – well one of the angries back in 2015 announced that I have her daughter’s blood on my hands, meaning, because of my stated opinions. I’ve never met her or her daughter. (I forget her name.) The opinions are supposed to be incitement to violence.
I do think for instance Trump’s rhetoric can incite violence, and probably has. I don’t think it’s loony to claim that some rhetoric can incite or inspire or make people feel safe in exercising violence and indeed genocide. But just saying men are not women? I’m not seeing it.
Thanks. Good to know. Even if it is just performance, I’ll take what I can get. Now if they could both go under the bus…
I don’t either. That would take a long, convoluted flow chart, which would also have to account for the jump between the box that says “Discussion and criticism of trans ideology by GC feminist women” and the one labeled “Violent man kills trans person.” Or “Trans person kills themselves,” for which one might also examine co-morbitities before laying sole blame at the feet of GC discussions. That flow chart will undoubtedly have boxes labelled “Misgendering is violence,” and “Denying trans identity is genocide,” along with a lot of hand-waving and question-begging, so I know it would be doable from their end, just not seen as plausible from ours.
What a pathetic cop-out. Hey I never said that *I* am happy about the brain cancer… I just approve of other people being happy about her brain cancer.
I am constantly amazed that this fuckwit is a philosophy graduate!
Oops, not just a philosophy graduate, also an ethics professor.
Magdalen was one of the few speaking truth out loud.
Men are not women. Grow up. Deal with it.
Abolish gender instead of multiplying it.
Magdalen Berns is such an extraordinary woman. I’ve watched many of her YouTube videos (and I NEVER watch videos — reading’s fast; watching/listening is too slow — but I’m always willing to turn the volume up and sit back and watch one of hers because she’s THAT GOOD). As I’ve watched her, I’ve always thought that her intellect, her humour, her ferocious wit, and tbh just her overall coolness has got to draw admiration from even critics on the other side of all this. I don’t understand how even her trans-rights-activist opponents could rejoice at her impending death. ANYONE involved in this debate has got to see that even if you disagree with her, she’s an extraordinary person and a principled and decent person and…
it’s just so horrible. Deeply upsetting. I’d tweet something supportive to her but Yaniv and his pals got me banned. I’ll find a way to send a message.
It just struck me: soon we’ll have to adjust to referring to her using the past tense instead of the present and that thought is just so much more upsetting than referring to someone using the wrong fucking pronouns. Fuck everything today.
Truth, all of it. Thank you.
It’s almost funny in a sad and disappointing kind of way how they keep complaining about being dehumanized while dehumanizing others.
YNNB #5
Exactly the point that comes to mind whenever TRAs make this claim: What *harm*? WTF are you even talking about?????
YNNB #5
This reminds me of religions with their heresies and blasphemies and cries of persecution if you disagree with them.
” if they’re going out of their way to harm an entire marginalized group? ”
You mean, like the harm done to women, especially young lesbians, by the transgender cult?
Trying to recruit pubescent girls who are going through difficulty accepting their bodies and their womanhood by convincing them that this means they are secretly boys inside, and should have their bodies mutilated to sterilize them and remove healthy tissue and become lifelong medical dependents — now that gives you blood on your hands. Literally, there is a doctor, or multiple doctors, who had blood.on.their.hands because of these unnecessary operations on children to remove healthy tissue, operations which growing numbers of adult women are living to regret. And, by extension, there is figurative blood on the hands of everybody involved in the internet (reddit, tumblr, youtube) rabbit-hole these poor impressionable children fell down, to their lifelong damage. Ms. Berns provided one of the few voices against this deluge of harm.
I am very sad that Ms. Berns is dying of glioblastoma. It’s the same thing my mother died of. My mother was also gender non-conforming, never wore makeup or heels, spent her life working in careers considered “men’s.” And she was, like Ms. Berns, a woman and a feminist. Because who else looks out for women?
Bless you for your work, Ms. Berns. Many are sad to see you go. You have helped many, many people see through and escape the dangerous transgender cult.
The Bin Laden comparison…just wow. And how does Magdalen Berns harass & harm trans people. Because she expressed a differing opinion? I know what they’d say, that it somehow contributed to the deaths & murders of transwomen, but trust me, the people doing that are NOT the types that would even listen to someone like Magdalen Berns, nor have they likely even heard of her, or any radical feminists. And the bit about ‘I mever said that *I* was happy….’ Give me a break! Maybe they didn’t say those exact words, but come on now.
My violence is just speech, but your speech is violence!